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er,,, what's in it for you?

Er, I think you've misread Keef and included SPs comments, unless i'm mistaken or Ferguson said something else.....Once again I find myself reluctantly sticking up for Man U/Ferguson in the face of a load of crap....plenty of mangers don't speak to the media immediately after a defeat (even Zola) Wegner does it frequently...wish you'd all f*ckin grow up....I actually dislike Liverpool more than I used to now as a result of the EDF yup, I'm pissed off with losing to Arse

By Swann, sorry....Hang on! Yupee

Bad drop off Swann earlier....should be 2 down

It's still not racism is it though...

I was suggesting the end of Jan - I'm planning on Forum drinks on the 8th so won't be up for 2 nights in a row.

...some of us think that about the revised Doctor Who...heresey as I know that is

,,,certainly not to the "Is there a god?" thread

It's not an old clip, it's on the current BBC sport web page prior to tomorrow's game.....presumably the BBC is crammed with sad old West Ham fans......

Brendan will also be pushed to claim 'it wos the Saffers wot won it for England' too :)) Now where is the old fella?

And the FA Cup third round is upons us........ Happy Days ...this made a 17 year old very happy

Falling asleep at 11.15pm infront of Jools waking up a 11.55pm doing the Happy New Year thing but in bed whilst the fireworks were sill in their prime and asleep by 12.30....

So presumably Amnesty are 'racist hypocrites' then?

Staying in on NYE with the bairns for 4th year in a row and wondering if you'll make midnight and not being remotely bothered!

Keef...would that 'bleedin heart liberals' thing be the same thing that anyone who disagrees with the 'bleeding heart liberals' gets called a Daily Mail reader?

Waves picture of Tevez

Raises papadam

Very good

Naaaah ;-)

I was thinking about what Mathew says too. If Pompey do go under then their matches are void which makes a fair differnce at the top Man U/Chelsea/Totts and Arsenal have all beaten them I think, whereas Liverpool lost. We've only won 4 games and as one is Pompey I'm really hoping they stay afloat..... Joking aside it would be terrible if a proper club like Pompey go to the wall.

Most of my obvious life changing decisions have been quite considered... ...I've had to make a few very quick decisions for my own personal safety in the past

Acid Casual... Couldn't disagree more with your views on youth culture. Youth culture in the 60s and 70s wasn't manufactured or from the media it was from youth - skinheads had to go to specialist shops for their Fred Perrys, punks made stuff out of bin bags, soulboys had to get peg trousers through mailorder. The chains didn't sell looks off the peg - the media didn't create youth culture, it largely didn't have a clue they just followed them. You believe Malcoms McClarens version of Punk!!!! He's just hanging on coat tails he didn't want the Pistols to be how they ended up.. The casuals the most important!!!!...behave... I was a southern Soulboy in 1978 and we had wedges and labels way back before the scousers and the football mobs...there just weren't many of us and being a working class youth culture based largely on imported funk and the rougher end of disco it didn't get ANY press from the middleclass 'rock' press as it wasn't based on bands and hasn't got the retrospective glory that the northern soul scene now carries. But we had that prototype Casual look (actually based on Bowie circa 1976) 3-4 years before it got on the terraces - I remember at West Ham most lads in 1980 were still Oi/Skinhead and looked at the few of us Soulboys as freaks, 3 years later everyone looked liked soulboys and called themselves casuals and listened to the far shittier/manufactured 1980s soul that was in the charts then. Casuals were just Soulboys younger brothers.... As it happens, I think Acid House was the most influential youth culture - from drugs, licensing laws, etc and also killed off the tribal nature of youth culture that proceeded it. As for modern youth culture being rebellious it just can't be in the same way...I've got mates who were skinheads who are grandads..in 1977, when my mtes and me cut our hair and pierced our ears with safety pins my headmaster had fought in southern Italy..he and most people over 40 were absoulutely petrified of punk

anyway, back on topic... some random link from The Guardian Online,....great journalism, someone not living on a bunch of completley prejudiced views after 30 years, alsong as the blokes a radical pyschologist or whatever...etc, etc... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/dec/27/goodbye-noughties-lesbianism-men This is what the online journalists do Sean...get as much hits as we can (see also Rod Liddle)...it's a form of Trolling really

...Spain win the World Cup ...Cameron wins (just) ....the economy recovers and then goes back into recession ...and something with clowns

Well a poor choice of polemic as it's the online bit where polemic is the norm and a bit misjudged as I've consistently said I'm against the death penalty on here... ..the point is the unqestionable faith in its own right and rightousness and the conformity of thought and lack of questioning that makes me dislike the Guardian..the difference in tone, delivey and audience makes this a poor comparison..go and get something from a non 'liberal' broadsheet