Parkdrive

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Jesus, I'm not getting under your skin. So why > the > > need to tell me where you are or what you're > > doing? Like I or anyone else gives a fcuk. > Here's > > hoping you holiday goes the same way as the > > slopes, all downhill. Enjoy, pompous arse. > > Oh, merely to provide a comparison. Me, out here, > in the snow, relaxing. You, at home, mouth > frothing and wiping spittle from your keyboard > with a towel. Altenatively, me typing previous message on a blackberry, laughing at you because you think anyone gives a shit about where you were when you composed your drivel. Prententious pratt.

I never buy foie gras, and always buy organic, unpasteurised milk from the farmers market. As I see it, intensively reared cattle is, by scale at least, far worse than foie gras. My question to you is - where do you get your milk from, and are you aware of the welfare of the animals involved? Why single out FG??? Well Lowlander, the name of the thread sort of gives the game away. As for milk I drink lactose free stuff as my body can't take lactose.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Independent record shops. Spent half my life in > them, scouring the racks for what I would buy on > pay day. Still loads around mate failing that there a quite a few record fairs within easy striking distant of ED. One in Croydon on January 27th at the Oasis Learning Village or at the Crofton Halls Orpington on Janaury 6th.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Thanks for your concern, but it takes a lot more > than the ramblings of an odious EDF poster to > > spoil my day. People with such disgusting tastes > need to be told they're wrong as they can't see > it > > themselves. As for being wound up by Loz, I'm > pretty sure his blood pressure goes through the > > roof every time I tweak his pompous nose. > > I'm skiing/snowboarding in Austria with blue skies > and perfect snow at the moment so believe me, my > blood pressure is the lowest ever. Stopping by > occasionally in the evenings to make you rant, > blow your top and swear a lot is just a big fun > Brucie bonus. Everyone seems to have spotted this. > Except you. > > Which is nice. Jesus, I'm not getting under your skin. So why the need to tell me where you are or what you're doing? Like I or anyone else gives a fcuk. Here's hoping you holiday goes the same way as the slopes, all downhill. Enjoy, pompous arse.

Aquarius if your words are aimed at the likes of Loz and Mamaora Man, especially after their shameful performance on the Foie Gras thread, don't give up. They, and others like them, simply try to bully others off of the EDF so that can have it as some kind of forum for their own views, and woe betide anyone who raises a contary opinion. Don't let them have that pleasure. Speak wherever and other you feel you must!!

As I've said before, this thread is/was about FG, my disgust is not just about the eating of it but the way its produced. If they're other foodstuffs produced in equally shameful, abhorrent ways, I'll back those that protest against such practices. I rather hoped that rather than put down those who despise FG producction, there would be more that spoke against the way its " traditionally" produced. All I see are those who wish to mock anyone who puts forward an anti sentiment.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lobsters have it easy compared with gill net or > long line fishing, which may allow fish several > days to asphyxiate or bleed to death. Even fish > that get caught and released can die over 3 days > as lactic acid from struggling (like when your > muscles get tired after exercise) alters their > metabolism and shuts down their organs. > > But I guess Parkdrive hasn't shared his position > on these? > > Looking forward to hearing whether these are okay, > and whether Foie Gras is the only 'disgusting' > one? When someone starts a thread on the ethics of eating/not eating fish caught in such a way, I'll add my opinion, this thread is for views on FG.

Lowlander Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This reminds me of the free-range chicken vs > battery chicken debate. > > You can get ethical Foie Gras. I > > I am mystified as to why many vegetarians on this > thread will eat battery chicken/eggs and drink > mass-produced milk / dairy products (google > "intensive dairy farming"), both of which > undeniably result in wider suffering to animals > than foie-gras production. > > Finally, have a look at pork production in Denmark > and other EU countries - also scandalous. > > Perhaps it's because Foie Gras and fox hunting are > seen as being for the well-off and upper classes, > so a form of reverse snobbery. Reverse snobbery, fcuk me so so wide of the mark it beggars belief and avoids the fact that force feeding animals is wrong. Regardless of whether there are worse/better ways of rearing livestock, force feeding is wrong. That is the nub of the argument. By the way you seem to have assumed I and others putting this argument forward and veggies and/or Guardian readers by way of trying to insult us. Just for the record I'm neither.

Right here it is; On the one hand you have those who believe that its ok to boast about enjoying a product resulting from pre-meditated cruelty to animals, on the other hand those who don't thats ok, and find such boasting repellent and nauseating. That's it no more no less. The more those who believe its ok to defend such boasting and by default cruelty, the more I'll attack it. Incidentally I note that an earlier post stated that there was no scientific evidence to prove that force feeding was nore distressing, painful or cruel that other farming methods. Equally there was no evidence put forward to say it was LESS cruel, LESS painful or LESS distressing to animals. I'm astounded that in the 21st century there are people who think such medieval practices are ok because it produces a so called delicacy.

Voyageur Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KidKruger Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > But it's just a slagging match now - right ? > > Absolutely - who can be more abusive to whom I > guess. Topic matter seems irelevant. That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, regardless of how wide of the mark you may be.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But it's just a slagging match now - right ? Not at all, he has his disgusting views and my view is opposite to his.

Ferguson was VERY fortunate not to have been sent to the stands yesterday, appalling behaviour constantly in the 4th officials ear. But this game was at the swamp so............

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > PD, just walk away from this thread, it makes you > angry and they have openly said they are trying to > wind you up. > > Not worth spoiling your Christmas over! Thanks for your concern, but it takes a lot more than the ramblings of an odious EDF poster to spoil my day. People with such disgusting tastes need to be told they're wrong as they can't see it themselves. As for being wound up by Loz, I'm pretty sure his blood pressure goes through the roof every time I tweak his pompous nose.

I thought Van Pussy was at deaths door a few days back??? He must have supernaural powers of recovery, bless his glass ankles.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > zapped because Hugo said it better] Or more correctly because you don't possess an original, rational argument of your own. Proof positive, as if it was needed, that you are and arse an much much worse.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Loz Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > Parkdrive Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Well said. By the way did you know that I'm > a Guardian reader? No nor did I!!! I love the way > > > > Loz jumps to huge sweeping generalisations. > > > > Pompous arse. > > > > > > Or I just know how to press your buttons.. > > > Nah, you're just a pompous arse. > > Well I suppose I would prefer to be that rather > than being a self-righteous, sanctimonious > hypocrite like you! And how do you I'm a hypocrite, you pompous arse. How do you what I eat? Your view point suggests that, regardless of whatever suffering is visited on the creature and the way its reared, provided it tastes good you don't give a fcuk, which makes you a nasty pompous excuse for a human being. Will you being baby seal clubbed to death to your diet, afterr all according to your rationale (or marked lack of it)it doesn't matter how they are treated as long as they taste goodn happy days. Despicable.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Parkdrive Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Well said. By the way did you know that I'm a > Guardian reader? No nor did I!!! I love the way > > Loz jumps to huge sweeping generalisations. > > Pompous arse. > > Or I just know how to press your buttons.. Nah, you're just a pompous arse.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > *Bob* > > Always admired Bob. But where I think he got > something completely wrong here (and unfortunately > many people agreed with him) was in suggesting > that the objection to fois gras was somehow linked > to the class or wealth of the fois gras consumer. > > > Hence the fois gras supporters allow the thread to > deviate into discussions on battery hens and fox > hunting. > > It's not that at all. It's a case of those eating > fois gras being responsible for keeping alive an > industry that knowingly and purposefully inflicts > pain on an animal daily, with the aim of making > that animal ill enough for you to enjoy its > diseased liver. > > For that, you should all be ashamed. (There is no > get out clause available by reference to other > animal mistreatments.) Well said. By the way did you know that I'm a Guardian reader? No nor did I!!! I love the way Loz jumps to huge sweeping generalisations. Pompous arse.

aquarius moon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Marmora Man Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > PD - I think you've lost your objectivity. A > few > > days of gentle teasing seems to have ignited a > > degree of unnecessary anger. > > > > Some people eat Foie Gras - get over it! > > > Gentle teasing?? > > Don't you realise that some people detest cruelty > to animals? > > So they get ANGRY reading posts like yours. Wasting your time Aquarius, both MM and Lo(botomi)Z(ed) are our intellectual superiors and are gourmands to boot.So just ignore them, you'll never reach their dizzy heights. Dizzy being the operative word, one of them can't even remember which posts should go on which thread. Bless.

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > PD - I think you're losing a degree of objectivity > here. Some gentle teasing over 72 hours seems to > ignited a degree of unnecessary anger. > > I like Foie Gras - get over it! And some people put posts on the correct threads. He has got all the cerebal capacity of Foie Gras though. No Hugo he's just lost the plot.

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Like a trout to a fly!! Or maggot to a stickleback in your case. Got any more (non)humorous deadbeat one liners?

Seasons greetings to one and all and may your god go with, as the great Dave Allen (hope that's the right spelling) used to say. Have a ball y'all.

Marmora Man Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > PD - I think you've lost your objectivity. A few > days of gentle teasing seems to have ignited a > degree of unnecessary anger. > > Some people eat Foie Gras - get over it! It's a vile way to treat a creature because some, for want of a better word, people like the taste. I've always found many of the EDF teasers to be incapable of taking a dose of their own gravy. They dish it out, and when they get hit with a contrary view, suddenly we're self-righteous and all sorts. If you can't take the heat, get out the poxy kitchen. Seasons greetings y'all.

2 fireman killed in the US while trying to put out a fire. Yep, you're right America, you need lots more guns, billions of em, how else you gonna keep gun crime down. Good old US of A.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I didn't comment on Keane. Bit of an assumption > there PD. Maybe you should have, his actions weren't overly condemned if I recall by Ferguson. I understand he's thinking of asking the CPS to have Ashley Williams up for attempted murder of Van Pur$estrings. Poor mite, I bet that ball really, really hurt. So much so, that the little boy inside him was crying out "MUMMY!"