>>I am not ingorant! BUT, I have thought of one potential noise problem with the Deaf thing. Loads of people shouting "Pardon, eh, what?" at 3am. << As your (somewhat tasteless) message referred to "the Deaf" with a capital "D" can I just point out none of them would be shouting "Pardon" or anything else in a loud Disco. They'd all be communicating quite happily with BSL and enjoying the music through their feet...: it's the people with "normal" hearing who'll be shouting "Pardon?" & "Eh?" etc etc in middle age having ruined their hearing by exposing it to overloud music in their "youth" (by "youth" I imagine I mean anything up to 40 and beyond...). Pete Townshend did not die before he got old, but he did to get to wear a hearing aid, as did poor John Entwhistle and a host of other 60's rock heroes... :))