as i said, link, embed meh. The spat was about history man effectively using the forum's servers as a repository of photos of local historical interest and then getting upset that admin was deleting them. He probably didn't know how to embed, and just supplied the links. The presentation is irrelevant to the problem really. Sorry to tar you with such an adjective, but I was just trying to provide a dedicated resource to help tackle a real problem - people complaining about their photos being deleted by admin, but not being bothered to actually do anything about it - with a workable solution. I try to do something and within moments I'm being told it's undesirable. The word sheesh sprung to mind ;-)