*Bob*

Birch. Stocks. Hanging. Job done.

Facebook support pages.. the X-Factor of petitioning.

Looting Poundland?! I mean, really. Our London looters will be the laughing stock of the looters the world over.

I guess you read it how you want to read it, but ultimately it doesn't even matter. Whether the Police wilfully told porkies, or simply allowed a 'favourable account' of the incident to develop and spread throughout the meeja - by virtue of them *not* stopping it from happening - it matters not. It's a failure by them; by their communications department. How such a huge, important and well-funded organisation such as The Met can be so imbecilic with regards to matters such as these is truly bizarre.

Put your spectacles on and give the last part another read "..A spokesman for the IPCC said he understood that Duggan had been shot by police, adding that an officer had been shot and wounded. "We understand the officer was shot first before the male was shot." It appears that the IPCC relied on the police sources for their information."

"The initial reports, however, followed a depressingly familiar pattern. With the allegation that the police were fired at first came the implication that Duggan may somehow have been responsible for his own death. A police officer was also cast as a modern-day hero, catching a potentially fatal bullet in his radio during an exchange of fire. The victim was predictably described in unflattering terms. In the earliest articles the Telegraph reported that on the night that Duggan was killed they were informed by "police sources" that the dead man was a "well-known gangster" who had been under surveillance by officers investigating gun crime in a preplanned operation in Tottenhan Hale ? the implication of "gangster" being that he was not worthy of public sympathy and may well have met a violent end in any event. The Telegraph also reported that a spokesman for the IPCC said he understood that Duggan had been shot by police, adding that an officer had been shot and wounded. "We understand the officer was shot first before the male was shot." It appears that the IPCC relied on the police sources for their information." (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/09/met-communications-department-mark-duggan) ie, he was wearing a thick coat in summer, and he jumped the barriers

My issue is more that the police - time after time - seem completely incapable of understanding that disseminating incorrect information early on (born out of an understandable desire to put the best face on things asap) is completely counter-productive when, in the due course of time, the real facts start to emerge. My natural instinct these days when hearing any police statement along these lines is to be immediately sceptical - and to a certain extent, they have themselves to blame. If I'm sceptical, then what about people who have already grown-up with little confidence or regard for The Met?

But was he wearing a heavy coat? Didn't he you vault the ticket barriers?

lindylou Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The way i see things is thus: i absolutely abhor > what is happening in my country. But peckham, > brixton and all the other places you could mention > have now become a melting pot to place all > immigrants. Does this theory hold for the various other ghettos which have seen trouble.. such as Bromley, Fulham, Ealing, Chingford, Balham, Merton, Oxford Circus and Chelsea?

Listen to the voice of the politically disaffected - interviewed on the BBC world service http://audioboo.fm/boos/434411-leana-hosea-speaks-to-croydon-looters-on-bbcworldservice

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Or if you moved to the Home Counties because of > the lack of affordable housing... This isn't a time for honesty, Brendan. This is a time to re-brand your reason for leaving.

If you left London in the last few years after failing in your wannabe career, it would seem that now is an excellent time to post on Facebook about how you 'made the right decision'.

The worst thing is that the abysmal Kaiser Chiefs are going to earn money out of this.

The question is.. does the cap fit?

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > *Bob* - 6730 posts > Huguenot - 4,961 posts I know! But then I haven't spent most of mine w@nking into my sixth-formers cap. Metaphorically speaking.

Vegan approaches restaurant, asks them if they will stop selling fois gras. Restaurant tells vegan to shove it up his arse and continues to serve fois gras. Vegan goes home to perspire lightly on vinyl sofa and await flavourless dinner. Case closed.

LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think you need to get a hobby! I'm afraid this* is it. *see 16 pages above

This one's filled with lovely foie gras. MMMmmmmmmmmmmm. And if any MoFo tries coerce me into not enjoying it.. I'm gonna march them to The Hague - and have them shot in the face.

Remind me again.. is the 74th or 75th time Huge has diverted and expanded a minor point of nothingness to biblical proportions - simply in order fuel his personal vanity debating project? I've lost count. And can someone please lower me a rope? I've fallen into the deep well of sadness.. again. Hay-yelp.

Tits! Cor...

It's not my fault you're an arse on so many concurrent threads.. it's yours!

How's the Notting Hill one going? Has that one reached squealing point yet?

Nothing less hot than banging on about shagging in a vaguely boastful manner.

Oh squealing self-important hissy-fit - again. Didn't The Palmerston pop-up two pages ago, print their foie gras menu, and leave without give a sh1t? Oh yeah.. they did. Still - on with the show. Shriiiiiek.. squeeeeeaaaal... etc

Argh!! Shriek! It's all so terribly, terribly important!