Metallic

KrackersMaracas Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tone deaf& insensitive slogan choice, as called > out by dogkennelhillbilly ... probably tells you > all you need to know about the group of people who > are part of this ?alliance?. Well, all streets DO matter chum. If you live on East Dulwich Grove or Croxted Road, your lives for several hours a day are a miserable polluted wreck. If you live where I do, peace and quiet and the sound of birdsong. But I think: share this out. One street is no better than another and if you are hearing and smelling traffic half the day yes you are going to be racked off.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am very supportive of the filtering on Calton > Ave / Court Lane, but I just don't understand the > rationale for the restrictions on Dulwich Village > road. Because ALL the traffic that needs to get through DV started using it as the main new route. Now it is prevented and guess what, Lordship Lane, East Dulwich Grove and Croxted Road now take the traffic. It is grossly unfair.

alice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It?s good to hear that people within the > beneficial zone of Dulwich Village are embarrassed > by or do not agree with some of the changes; > perhaps they could add their comments to the > consultation map because at the moment it?s > weighed in favour of those who love the changes. No it is not. Look at the investigation done by S Dulwich Alliance. https://dulwichalliance.org/?page_id=101

It is probably something they thought of to stop the skateboarders grinding. They will always find a way!!

Well we all know whose fault it will be if someone is involved in an accident there.

heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think Alice is right, for Dulwich Village it was > never about cyclists or clean air for all > residents ... it was for very rich people to have > access to all that a large city provides, > cleaners, gardeners, Waitrose delivery, wine > shops, sourdough, expensive restaurants, excellent > private education, private areas for parking the > second car - while living the life in an exclusive > area, as close to a rural Village as > possible...and they don?t give a flying fig for > anyone who suffers from displaced traffic. Croxted > Rd and Lordship Lane residents do not matter to > the Villagers. That is completely untrue. If you care to ask people who are apparently benefitting you will find the majority are embarrassed at the money spent, and furious.

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > legalalien Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Upcoming cycle hangars and various double > yellow > > lines etc > > > > https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3771087 > > Ah the usual double-yellow line extension > pre-cursor to a CPZ review is in play (squeeze the > parking spaces to try and create parking stress to > get people to vote for a CPZ): > > > (n) add new or extends existing lengths of DYL 2m > (unless otherwise stated) in ATHENLAY ROAD, > BELLWOOD ROAD, BORLAND ROAD, DUNSTANS ROAD (3m), > ELCOT AVENUE, FELLBRIGG ROAD (4.5m), FRIERN ROAD, > GOODRICH ROAD, GROSVENOR PARK (1.5m), IVYDALE > ROAD, KELLY AVENUE, MELBOURNE GROVE, OVERHILL > ROAD, SHENLEY ROAD and in three locations on > UPLAND ROAD; Isn't it funny that the area the councillors are saying the residents need to walk and cycle, and have made road closures the way to do it, ie Dulwich Village LTN area, have no cycle hangars in that list.

Strangely, we have been able to go everyday, no blips since the re-opening. Was probably overloaded last week with anticipation.

Took a look at these hazards. In the way, and unprotected, no new signage to warn cyclists they are going to have to squeeze between just two planters. They are very good quality and in the right place I'm sure would be an asset to the streetscape or whatever Southwark Council call it. But why couldn't the Highways Department put them where people want them? I reckon a few loud mouths have created a feeling that everyone is in favour, but don't be fooled! I don't think Southwark putting a few benches and a parklet in the Village will make people feel better about their streets when residents on Croxted Rd, East Dulwich Grove, and Lordship Lane are actually suffering. Seems as if the councillors of Southwark (and Lambeth) just do not give a flying fig for these VOTERS.

Not had the leaflet, some neighbours of mine have, and I'm hearing of several addresses who were missed out whilst neighbours received one. Why can't the council get anything right?

I think we should use " " when talking about University of Westminster. Ranked 126/131. I reckon even I could get a Chair there.

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > London Mayor is a vanity post. It has no real > power, at least when compared to great world > cities like NYC. All these layers of politicians > serve politicians, mainly, and their supporters. I > am minded not to vote. Well Khan seems to manage to choose LAS ceo, and TfL links to people who are his stooges.

My memory of the two consultations I attended for OHS involved not being called by Cllr Simmons at Alleyn's even though my hand was up for the whole of question time, and at the Church one, being harangued by people I had never met before for having the cheek to ask where the traffic would go, off a main commuter/business route that would essentially foul up the entire area (Mums for Lungs people, apparently. Well I was almost proved correct but my vision was totally underestimating the reality we have been left with: Businesses at risk. People's health and safety being at risk. Other nearby communities ruined by pollution from stationary displaced traffic or drivers forced on to these roads because of a few cameras which I learn made Southwark ?1.4 million in a few weeks. You couldn't make it up , could you?

Well, there is one sorry excuse for a missive to the people of his Ward! LTN Consultation area: "Everyone will be able to respond to the consultation, wherever they live. It is not the case that only those living on roads with filters will be consulted." I don't live in this guy's ward, they are all as bad really, but when you see the decimation of businesses in just one of these roads with filters - I mean Melbourne Grove by the way - it is heartbreaking. As we all know, some idiots think that shopping locally means you should only use your local shops, no one else from outside should need to shop there. This is what happened when tweets were written that asked why Dulwich Village should expect customers from outside the locked down area to use what amounts to destination shops. And now we have the same issue in Melbourne Grove. Destination shops (ie not food) and ones that cannot survive without customers getting access to them. And being able to park when they finally fight their way through the traffic jams caused by road closures; planters, cameras, closed off completely, whatever. If you cared, Mr McCash, about your voters and businesses, you would be doing something to help them instead of leaving businesses to flounder, close or re-locate. Might I say that relocating is a nightmare of costs which if you are on your uppers after Covid/Lockdown, is an expense you can do without. "I was very sad to learn that Callows is moving, but I believe that they are staying very locally. Yes, we are in touch with local businesses about ongoing issues. My fellow Goose Green councillors and I are hoping to host a community meeting to discuss how best to support...". Don't hold your breath for any help folks. Everyone in the area knew this would happen, and residents and businesses alike told you and your fellow councillors but the red mist of cycling utopia has blinded you all. And when the barber goes, and the pharmacy has gone, who on earth would take on premises in your dead land? It is the same in Dulwich Village, a three hour desert every afternoon except for mothers collecting their kids from school, but hurrying home for Amazon deliveries.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > An online seminar a few weeks ago featuring a > number of well known officials and academics > discussing decarbonisation of road transport. > This is not just about banning the internal > combustion engine, but reducing car use. One > talks about tackling single occupancy journeys - I > find the reduced average occupancy of cars > (pre-Covid) pretty awful. The seminar is high > level, and has not gone into detail about local > measures. Rachel Aldred from Westminster > University is quite impressive, give it a go when > the warm weather ends. It's good to be informed on > both sides of the debate. > > Rachel Aldred. Oh dear. That the best you can do?

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Northermonkey, no need to defend being a member of > LCC. Most people in membership organisations are > passive, but LCC has hardly been taken over by the > Red Brigade or Baader Meninhof. LCC and its > regional groups are pretty transparent. Although > maybe they are using thought waves to summon up a > rentamob of cyclists. Can others posting here get > real? You have to be joking! There is an inner group, you hear about it all the while. Simon Still may be out for the moment but there's plenty of others.

northernmonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Objected or asked how it would be paid for - think > it was the latter before the public lynching > starts. I also think its a good point - if money > is available, then great, but its a good question > upfront before lots of time and therefore cash is > poured into this. He still said no to the idea.

heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Who objected? Trams would be great. Cllr Leeming.

alice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Very interesting bit of data on twitter. OK it?s > by dulwich alliance but nevertheless worth > reading. What is it?

Why do they always make mistakes? Maybe they will accept a very big one when it comes down to it.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But why the sudden interest now? - why not ten, > twenty or thirty years ago when air pollution was > much worse? Clean Air in London have been around > for ten years or more - see their ten tips on air > quality > https://cleanair.london/solutions/10-steps-for-cle > an-air-in-london/ > > Client Earth have been taking on government over > air quality for a similar length of time and have > been successful in the courts in getting > government to meet legal air quality limits. > There is a bigger picture/world beyond SE22. Unless you live or walk on Lordship Lane and East Dulwich Grove. Come off it.

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oh look, another greenwashed front group. Is this > OneDulwichFairAir...? Can't you just accept that residents want to know what they are breathing in so that they can hold Southwark to account? Don't pro LTN supporters care about what they breathe in?

ab29 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What is the plan - to install some monitoring on > the affected roads? > > Metallic Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > https://www.gofundme.com/f/east-dulwich-community- > > > > clean-air?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_mediu > > > m=social&utm_source=twitter > > > > Everyone who lives here, works here, children > who > > walk to school here, we all need air quality > > monitoring!! The Council are not assessing it, > > yet all we see are the traffic jams and fumes > > caused by displaced vehicles, with the > residents > > of LTNs sitting pretty whilst the rest choke. Yes it is the plan

https://www.gofundme.com/f/east-dulwich-community-clean-air?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter Everyone who lives here, works here, children who walk to school here, we all need air quality monitoring!! The Council are not assessing it, yet all we see are the traffic jams and fumes caused by displaced vehicles, with the residents of LTNs sitting pretty whilst the rest choke.