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Trying to catch the bottom of the market needs lots of luck . A small rise in house prices may not indicate the bottom has been reached . The decision to buy , or sell , will depend on many factors such as family circumstances , financial position , and expectations of future pricing trends.There is a very strong possibility that prices will continue to fall for another twelve months.If one needs a home and can afford to pay current prices buy now .Otherwise , hang on for another year and take a calculated gamble and buy then.

No mate , one pound is worth 4 ES dollars.:)-:)

PeckhamRose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's like saying Peckham or Motorbikes are > dangerous and that all old people going out at > night will be mugged. Can't stand these > generalisations. It's also a class issue. My mate > used to work at Chelsea Police station and the > amount of streetcrime in posh streets round Sloane > Square was as bad or good as anywhere else. It > just wasn't reported. Also, define crime! In the > posh offices and companies everywhere, crime is > being committed when companies get out of paying > taxes or create waste that is not recycled.... > I'll get me coat. There is a lot of truth in your comments Rossy. The majority of comments on this forum can be said to be generalizations , especially ones exalting the virtues of living in ED.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ibo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > THe areas surrounding ED are muggers paradise . > > In what way is the above *not* comparing ED to > other areas, exactly? OK , fair enough lets stick to ED muggings where they are so bad once does not need to compare them to anywhere else.

Michael Palaeologus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes Ibo for once give us some hard facts instead > of received wisdom. How many muggings, how many as > a percentage of the population, rate of increase > in muggings? > > Muggings have happened and will happen, they > happen all over London and everywhere. How is ED a > muggers paradise? Well . in the last 12 months I know of three muggings just in Barry and Upland Roads that were quite nasty , and that is just a small part of ED

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How many? Any more than anywhere else? > > Nope. Your "nope" suggests that you have already answered your own questions. I am not comparing ED to any other area , just warning people that there are active vicious muggers in the area and they should be very careful about believing all the crap that is being written on this forum about the wonderful ED.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's not so much a glossy view of ED.. more a > realistic view of other areas, based on.. you > know.. having lived there. > > 'Muggers paradise'. Ridiculous. Tell that too the many people who have been viciously mugged in and around ED

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You're such a little ray of sunshine, Ibo. > > And you do talk a whole lot of rubbish. Just factual mate . sorry to ruin your rossy view of ED

THe areas surrounding ED are muggers paradise . Be careful.

Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It was meant to be humorous but somehow changed > into something more serious .Having thought about > it a bit more it seems that ethnic cleansing is > done force of arms and economic cleansing is done > by force of the wallet . > > No shit? Did you mean no fairy shit?

It was meant to be humorous but somehow changed into something more serious .Having thought about it a bit more it seems that ethnic cleansing is done force of arms and economic cleansing is done by force of the wallet .

Ok Sean , I accept that you cannot bring yourself to understand the term "economic ethnic cleansing" .If you have time read the following http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell080602.asp

Not so Bob . Cleansing can also said to mean a change , which can be for the better or otherwise.

By definition it was ethnic cleansing. It seems that most people are treating the change in the demographic make-up of ED as being of a negative nature just because the words "ethnic cleansing" are used.

Michael , you seem to be making a lot of "psuedo-intellectual old wank" about the meaning of ethnic cleansing. ED is certainly changing ethnically if one looks at the movement between black and white people in the area. Virtually all the prams how wide occupants who are in the main British. The term "economic ethnic cleansing" does not imply any sort of criticism towards the new people . The movement of peoples is being carried out on a voluntary basis where those selling are quite happy to take the money that is being thrown around ED. Nevertheless , it is ethnic cleansing.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ibo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > Do you have a description of the shit in > > question? > > > Let's hear from some South Croydon residents, > bigging it up on 'Find A Property': > > > "Believe me you can do a lot worse" > > "The house prices are almost reasonable. Also > great for Gatwick Airport (10 minutes) and not bad > for Luton either." > > "Croydon gets a bad name, it isn't perfect and the > centre of town on a weekend evening can be > treacherous due to excesssive drinking, > testosterone and bad parenting - but if you know > when and where to be - life can be pleasant enough > and you can afford a bit more than a shoebox! Mark > - South Croydon Resident for 5 years." > > "Croydon is good for shopping and IKEA is on your > doorstep." > > So - pleasant enough, good links to Gatwick and > Ikea on your doorstep. A tick in every box. I am not so sure about IKEA and the adjoining area. Last time I was there the wind was blowing the wrong way from the local sewage works . Now , that was some shitty smell.However , the comparison between Croydon and ED is not quite fair as we are comparing a large multicultural London Borough to a small , white , middle-class dominated area inside Southwark .

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm well acquainted with 'leafy south Croydon'. > It's shit. Do you have a description of the shit in question?

Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Really, all this talk of 'ethnic cleansing' and > 'genocide' is offensive. > > And moving to Croydon would be shit but it would > not be like being gassed. > > Ok Paul, here's the deal. A few of us are taking > the piss out of the ludicrous assertations made > earlier in the thread comparing migration due to > rising housing costs with ethnic cleansing. I > thought that was fairly obvious. For the record I > do not think that moving to Croydon would be worse > than being gassed, not even Sth Croydon, but my > comment was never meant to be taken seriously, it > was meant (in a jokey way) to highlight how silly > the original comment was. > Its quite a hard forum to joke around on isn't it, > you literally have to explain every post. Are you saying that S.Croydon is civilized and can be compared to the wonderful community we have here in E.D.? On my to Brighton roadworks caused me to end up in West Purley , part of boring S.Croydon . The streets/roads/avenues were all empty except for the dog walkers , no prams and the people must be very poor as there hardly any cars parked on the roads. The detached houses all looked pretty but soulless , whereas in ED we have wonderful damp ridden terraced properties which force us to speak to each other.God only knows if they have anything like LL, though they do have big golf courses where the blokes go to drink and fart . No gastro pubs for miles .It must be hell living in the leafy parts of S.Croydon

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > But that doesn't make it economic ethnic cleansing > does it? Taking the money and choosing to return > home is a choice. When Eastenders move from Mile > End to Essex it's not economic ethnic cleansing is > it? It's two sides of the same coin - ie shifting > demographics (happening since for EVER by the way) > can, to some people, make other areas/choices more > desirable. > > downsouth - excellent post and I can imagine my > mother being very much of the same mindset as your > friends/family. As my (by proxy) father in law put > it on a visit to ED a couple of years ago "so this > is where the chattering classes live" Of course it is ethnic cleansing through the tools of economic behavior.It is free an voluntary.

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ibo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I know of several black families that have taken > the money and moved to places such as the West > Indies and Croydon > > Sorry, that sentence just made me laugh a lot! > >:D Wonder which one I'd chose if I had the dosh... It was meant to be humorous. Croydon , here I come .

Economic ethnic cleansing of black people is certainly taking place . I know of several black families that have taken the money and moved to places such as the West Indies and Croydon .The majority of people replacing these families are young and white.

Nice one . Presumably , they can only check the bins in front gardens . All other bins would need to be checked on collection days.

Food waste recycling is being done in some parts of Croydon where houses have big rear gardens.

You are absolutely right Siduhe . The Council are simply misdirecting resources.Many of the bins are in front gardens which are accessible to the public . Mockney Piers is correct in stating that it is impossible for the Council to stop the public putting rubbish in these bins . They may catch a few idiots who put identifiable rubbish in such bins , but once the public becomes aware of Council snooping tactics will change.I guess the next step is to put cameras in every street corner . We need the Council to cooperate and encourage its citizens rather than use snooping tactics that will only produce negative results.

As I understand the situation bins are being inspected so as to ensure that ; 1.Bins are used only for domestic refuse that cannot be recycled; 2.Commercial rubbish is not being dumped in domestic bins; 3.Public are not dumping rubbish in bins allocated to specific households.