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Well, if they don't want your custom, then it's their loss. As for the attitude, Edina in Absolutely Fabulous would say, "You only work in a shop, dear" - or something to that effect. I feel embarrassed on their behalf, how rude. Please don't judge everyone in East Dulwich by 'their' standards and welcome to our community.

Dulwich Library - bribery? Goodrich School - fool?

BARA Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The handy store in Goodrich Road was a lifesaver > for all us girls attending Friern Upper School,it > was still there (just) when my daughter went to > Goodrich primary in the late 1970s. > > I must be ancient as I remember shopping in > Woolworths (the site that Foxtons has taken over) > David Griegs- those marble shop tops, the drapers > (around Sema Thai location) and the Welsh Couple > who ran the dairy by the zebra crossing at Goose > Green opposite EDT- Jones? their son did the local > milk round. What about the Co Op between Cry.Pal. > rd and landells where Big M was. Cullins at the > corner of Landells and LL- what was the Plough > Homecraft before? Wonder if there any archive photographs of the above-mentioned?

Found an interesting site www.embargoed.org - about the embargoes enflicted on the Turkish Cypriots - certainly raised my eyebrows.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > You may find this useful: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerick_(poetry) just testing - to see who was awake. Ha ha.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > fish Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Wasn't there a restaurant called Chez Nico, or > > something? The owner of this establishment, > > somewhere near the police station, went on to > > become quite famous - or was he before? Can > > anyone remember? > > Yes, Chez Nico, on the current site of the Chinese > place (Mr Lius or something). He went on to open > up on Park Lane, and earn 3 michelin stars! Landis - Nico Landis.

Alan Dale Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anyone got a link to the web page for this > development? Sorry? What? Couldn't here you, mate. Got my ear plugs in and am trying to hold on to the rattling crockery.

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There really are very few examples of wars where > religion was the primary causal factor. > At a pinch the first crusade and the explosion of > conquest at the birth of Islam. > > Setting aside the usual conquest/empire/resource > wars of the past (*ahem* honest), in the post war > period we had lots of post colonial conflicts > throught the distorting lens of the cold war. > > For the most part though it's nationalism, coupled > with uncertainty, fear and extremists and/or nasty > politicians using the expediency of fear to their > own nefarious ends, generally to shore up their > local power base. > Ooh, now we have a REALLY long list... > > This was a very informative read on two notorious > cases of recent times > The Key to my Neighbour's House Who would have thought that such atrocities could have taken place on European soil? It beggars belief that the whole world can stand by and do nothing - and intervene where they should, yet stick their beaks where they shouldn't! And what about that old tyrant Mughabe? When will the world and those that govern, actually do the right thing? Why did millions die, in both world wars and other conflicts? We have learnt nothing! Then again, those at the top who make the decisions are not the ones who are sent to do the dirty work!

Certainly true of the Turkish Cypriots - muslims - but the Church has always tried to influence the politics of the Greek Cypriots, which is a shame as the two communities share the same culture and are distinct from the mainland Greeks and Turks. The European Parliament missed a very good opportunity and the Cyprus problem could have been resolved - had both communities been accepted into their exclusive club - not just those who made no concessions and refused re-unification. And they say that the EEC is not a Christian Club? Will there ever be a time when all people will be equal and free - from oppression, proverty and war? We can only live in hope........

Sufficient policing needed?

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's alright fish, they were actually referring to > on "crazynurse" who ended up banned. She really > was a loon. > Poor Keef, bumped again huh? Five years of therapy for my paranoia down the drain .......it's back to the shrink - and the demon drink.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry - it was a barber shop (that still doesn't > make me a bloke!) Thank you.

We only accept American Express or Euros, from those who wish to sample the wares

What about Lift Off, on a Saturday morning, with Ayshea - who used to wear this chain with a massive A?

lozzyloz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not very fashionable but I once saw Bob Monkhouse > live and he blew away all my preconceptions of > what I'd seen of him on TV. Outstanding! Didn't Bob Monkhouse attend Dulwich College and his grandfather owned most of Forest Hill?

Wasn't there a restaurant called Chez Nico, or something? The owner of this establishment, somewhere near the police station, went on to become quite famous - or was he before? Can anyone remember?

Has anyone actually purchased one of the above flats, yet? They still look empty - weren't they completed a while ago? Mind you, who would wish to live so close to a rail line? Is this one developer who may have got it wrong?

LostThePlot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Since April 1998. > > Came to London in 1989 (From Durham...I consider > it to be missionary work....) having tried Maida > Vale, Highgate, Wimbledon Park, Putney & Wimbledon > Chase before arriving here. > > I see there is still much work to do..... ;-) Too right there is, compared to all the places you've lived in before, ED must feel positively primative.

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mockney Piers said: ..."we separated church and > state some time ago I believe" Sorry to disabuse > you of this notion but CofE is still the > established church. Not claiming that's right, but > is the position. > > PS. superb picture of Ataturk in hairdressers in > Old Kent Road Was his picture in a female/male or unisex hairdressers? I say this because the new President's wife covers her hair, due to her Islamic beliefs, and such things were banned by Ataturk - especially in government buildings - but does this mean she is banned from living in the Presidential residence? Does anyone know? Oh, the irony of it all.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don?t really want to get involved in this but > just want to comment the following. As someone who > has visited both Greece and Turkey, as I?m sure > many others have. It is glaringly noticeable how > similar their cultures really are. Except for that > one all important factor, religion. Which seems to be the root of all trouble. And yet, Ataturk - the founder of modern Turkey - based the constitution of the Republic of Turkey on secularism. How he must be turning in his grave, now?

Well, the British weren't exactly good colonial masters themselves - didn't they inherit most of their empire from the Ottomans? Whatever the rights and wrongs of world history, the Turkish Cypriots have been let down very badly by Europe and the world. It is an absolute disgrace that in 2007, they should be treated so appallingly. Then again, the civil war in Bosnia wasn't that long ago. So much for equality? Some people would say it is a muslim thing - but "I could not possibly comment".

Harry Scott Gibbons' 'The Genocide Files' is a very informative book - which should be read by those who feel the need to comment on the Cyprus problem, without checking their facts or the history.

downsouth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Like I said a complicated history. You've just > promoted one side of it. When the republic of > greece was formed many turks and greeks were > expelled to the other side of the new border. > Attrocities were conducted by both sides. When > Turkey went in it was because it had the interests > of the ethnic/cultural turks. It set up a defence > border when the Greek military junta attempted a > coup following internecine attacks between the > communities. in other words turkey did not attack. > > > Both sides however were culpable but unfortunatley > in the UK we all sing from the same hymn sheet. > > The irony however is that the Turkish Cypriots are > somewhat like the Kurds in that they do not wish > to be ruled by the Greeks - yet in this instance > it is wrong... So, why should the withdraw if it > will lead to more ethnic cleansing - hasn't there > been enough already? Cyprus was ruled by the Ottoman Turks, from 1571-1878, then Britain annexed the island after the First World War. The Greek Cypriots of Cyprus have, always, strived for ENOSIS - union with Greece - and, in the 1950's a terrorist group - EOKA - fought with their colonial masters to gain independence. In 1960, Cyprus was declared independent and became a republic, with the Greeks and Turks sharing power - until 1963, when the ethnic cleansing of the Turkish Cypriots began. Britain, Greece and Turkey were the guarantor powers of Cyprus and had the right to intervene if the need arose. In 1974, the Greek junta decided to over-throw President Makarios and unite Cyprus with Greece. The UN has been in Cyprus since 1963 and the Turkish Cypriots continue to be discriminated against, as they have been for well over fifty years. They voted YES in a referendum to unite the island - the Greek Cypriots voted No and were accepted into the European Union. To date, the Turkish Cypriots continue to be discriminated against and, since 1963, Turkey still waits to join the EU.

bald marauder Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hmm, the minor rumpus kicked off by the cloak's > postings remind me somewhat of the the oddities > posted by CRAZYFISH or something like that. Has > she disappeared? > (BTW Sorry Keef, I could have started a new thread > and let this one sink a little lower, but it is my > first posting on this thread, and I'm sure it > won't keep going forever. Maybe we should start a > sweepstake on when it will disappear from the > first page - Christmas...2008?) > BM Just seen this - interesting, to say the least!

What a lovely mix.