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FelicityNormal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is Honk a racist prick? :) > > The key factor in ED being relatively low-crime is > the fact that it is now a very middle-class area > (it certainly wasn't always). Middle-class > neighbourhoods tend to have lower levels of street > crime. It has nothing to do with race, it has to > do with class. A black middle-class neighbourhood > will also have low-crime. England is such a mess > in terms of racism that a black middle-class > neighbourhood in London does not even exist, > however I've lived in black middle-class > neighbourhoods abroad and there is low crime. > When you have a good career, nice home, are > educated and so on you tend to feel less incentive > to go out into the street and knife your peers. > (That said, middle-class whites are fantastic at > white-collar fraud crimes and deception). Dunno, living in East Dulwich is enough to make me want to kill everyone in the entire world, starting with people like you and ending with myself, so I wouldn't say that's a completely watertight theory.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just because money is being spent on ED, it > doesn't mean that more money isn't being spent > elsewhere. > > Honk, do you think ?42k is a lot of money? Really? Not knowing anything about what is spent on other areas, I don't know. I just hope it is a mere fraction of what is spent on other areas is all.

To use someone's amazingly thin argument from another thread: 'if that's what colour they are, how am I being racistzzz' ? My point in my original post is that, like it or not, ED is a massively white, middle-class, professional area by demographic. Statistically one of the lowest areas for crime in comparison with the rest of south London. But if there's one thing that demographic has a lot of, it's abject fear of being a victim of crime, even though statistically they're in one of the the lowest-risk groups. So yes, what an excellent use of money.

Yes, it's important to make one of south London's safest, whitest boroughs even safer, I think this is an excellent use of money.

It sells booze and isn't that Nicolas place. ie WIN.

Asset Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Honk - I bow to your superior knowledge. > Intensive farming all the way then. Who said anything about 'intensive farming'? I certainly didn't. I know you probably love to think all organic farms are run by a small family, with hens and ducks everywhere - many are indistinguishable in size and output from the 'evil' farms. You're better off buying something that was produced nearby, organic or otherwise.

Asset Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > it's not about taste - or shouldn't be. It's > about the choice of not imbibing something that is > rammed full of pesticides, fungicides, sulphates > etc etc. > I have tasted some very nice organic wine and some > shit, same for non-organic. I know it's a common ideal that anything organic represents a bucolic existence. Without opening a can of worms let me pick just one hole in your argument. Organic farmers usually treat fungal disease with copper, usually in solution. Unlike modern pesticides which biodegrade, copper stays toxic in the soil indefinitely. Ah, of course, it's um, 'natural' copper. Organic pesticides can be highly toxic to humans, if not more so than their 'chemical' counterparts. Strychnine is 'natural', I'd probably avoid drinking it though.

I worked for Oddbins just after I was a student. If anyone was going to source a bunch of top-quality organic wine it would have been one of their buyers. We ended up with a token display in the corner of the shop named 'Compost Corner' alluding to the semi-organic nature of the wine within. All were, without fail, unpalatable. There is a very long and boring argument about why organic is actually no better than non-organic, but let's leave that for the parts of the internet where that debate rages on, like a fire in a tyre dump.

FelicityNormal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi Honk > Not really going to get into the organic vs > non-organic argument. But when a shop is called > Bossman Organic Wines (I believe that is the name) > I would expect to find organic wines inside. The > person I spoke to in there tried to talk me out of > buying organic wine which is why I suspect he was > not the owner. I think it actually says 'Bossman Wines - Specialist and Organic wines, beers and spirits' So I don't think he's necessarily saying they have organic wines, you've just mis-read the sign. They definitely stock organic beers. Maybe march in there and give him a syntax lesson.

He's nice, he's got some decent wine in there, from 5 quid bottles of plonk up to some heavyweight reds around the 15 quid mark. Ask 3 winemakers about 'organic' wine and they'll tell you 3 different things. Why does it have to be organic?

It's a contentious issue, the labelling of 'organic' wine anyway. (In that the majority falls about 5-10% short of being 'organic' anyway) The winemaking process can't actually be organic, but can be 'respectful'. It's worth bearing in mind (especially with wine) that organic doesn't necessarily mean 'better'. Better to buy a nice French red from one of the smaller vineyards than 'organic' from South Africa.

I was trying to remember where I'd seen similar indignant tutting before. Then I remembered: [attached] Apparently yesterday there was 'a mob' of outraged dads outside the Horniman Park DEMANDING to be let in. The same dads who would be hiring the very best lawyers to sue the museum out of existence lest their rat-faced offspring be injured whilst on the premises.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

mrsorganicsausage Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was told yesterday morning by a council worker > in the park that he had been told not to open the > park as it was too dangerous!! I then phoned the > council to complain (I was however in the park at > this point having squeezed through the railings) > Still points needed to be made. Again I was told > on the phone that it was a health and safety > issue. All the parks in Camden were closed on > Monday for this reason. Tretcherous those parks > are.... I hope you do actual important things with your time, like vote. Actually, please don't vote. Ever.

I am on the edge of my seat here. Great thread guys.

DeborahC Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just back from Peckham Rye Park > It's not closed due to H&S but apparently the > locks on all the gates had frozen... So boosboos is actually a liar posting what he wants to believe? this calls the integrity of several other threads into doubt too. haha

andy&kez Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Nice input Honk, talk about useful!! > > At the end of the day any description is better > than nothing. If several homes get robbed by a > black guy with dreads then its a pattern and that > will help the police catching the guy(s). > > It sounds like the PC Police are around. Some > people really need to chill out Yeah, it really narrows it down. It is more like thinly-veiled code for 'not from round here'

See the 'wheelygate' thread for more white supremacist ramblings on a similar theme.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well everyone, glad you all had a great day > further f*cking up our economy yesterday! (as if > the banks have not done enough damage already), I > presume most of you are now back to work are you? > Or is the melting half an inch still on the ground > causing you problems? :'( lol > > Thousands of people left stranded by a suspended > public transport network, foreign visitors left > wondering whether Britain really is a place worth > visiting and many people killed or injured on the > roads because the necessary emergency equiptment > was not freely available for use or had not been > invested in. Glad you all had fun! > > (By the way the small koala is adorable) > > Louisa. Ah, the schools must be off again, the 6th formers have overrun the message boards with posts like this. What exactly is your point? I don't understand.

Someone didn't open a gate but you managed to get into the park anyway. Yeah, we're going to hell in a handcart for sure.

If you are riding, make sure you wash your bike with a hot water and re-grease it (salt will help hurry along corrosion of plastic or rubber seals + paint, and also changes the consistency of grease...) - generally NOT GOOD.

I'm just glad that maniac with the wheely suitcase was unable to get out on the roads yesterday

Moos Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > honk Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Igloo on Goose Green was v impressive. > > > > An ED dad screaming at his children 'IRIS! > > JONATHAN! DO NOT GO NEAR THE IGLOO!" was a > > highlight of my day. > > Honk, I am beginning to think you are like a car > alarm. Initially you think - Oh, that's something > I might need to pay attention to. But then as the > same note goes on and on, you realise it's just > noise and you wish it would stop. I'm surprised you can hear it over the hum of self-contentedness.

Igloo on Goose Green was v impressive. An ED dad screaming at his children 'IRIS! JONATHAN! DO NOT GO NEAR THE IGLOO!" was a highlight of my day.

I had great fun watching a couple of morons on my road who were so desperate they spent 2 hours digging their precious motor out, then slid all over the road until they pranged a parked car about 5 mins later. Duuh.