titch juicy

Zebedee Tring Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > people living, say, up near the Plough, I couldn't > give a damn about you, cos I'm all right Jack. > > plough? It's just as quick to jump on a number 12 > to Peckham rye as it would to get to ED station > > > So what's wrong with a branch of the Bakerloo Line > being extended to Dulwich Library and Forest Hill, > as suggested by another poster? Or don't you care > as it wouldn't help you personally? > > In the words of someone whose name escapes me, > we're all in this together (irony alert). Sorry, I was assuming that existing stations would be used. I wasn't aware that there'd e options to build whole new stations. Would there?

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So people think he is going to WHL? > > Really? No. Probably not

Zebedee Tring Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > If I understand you correctly, wavyline, you are > > saying that it would be a shame if the tube was > extended to Camberwell or the ED area. Are you > serious? > > I agree that it would be a shame. From a purely > selfish point of view > > > So basically what you are saying is all those > people living, say, up near the Plough, I couldn't > give a damn about you, cos I'm all right Jack. How will it help people that live up by the plough? It's just as quick to jump on a number 12 to Peckham rye as it would to get to ED station

KrackersMaracas Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I completely agree rahrahrah. I often think about > the wonderful restaurants we have nearby, from a > personal perspective a lot of friends are put off > from visiting our area because without the tube it > is perceived as difficult to get to (or from past > a certain time of night). I don't like to think of > ED becoming a version of northcote road and I love > it's character - but I do think that better > transport links will help local businesses > flourish. But it's not difficult to get to.

StraferJack Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Simon Mullock from Sunday Mirror it was who wrote > it: > > "dutch source has told me that Van Gaal has > alreadyinformed Spurs he won't be going to White > Hart Lane" Lol Unnamed Dutch Source = Geezer in coffee shop in the 'dam

I love Jurgen Klopp so much. BVB is very much my second team and I had the pleasure of going to a game last year in the Westfalion Stadion.

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Moyes has a better record than Fergie for their > respective first 31 games in charge. > > Then again, Moyes doesn't have Clayton Blackmore. The game has changed (probably for the worse) since those days. I'm not sure 'losing the dressing room' was even a concept back then, as players were paid a fraction of what they are now and player power was a horrifying vision of the future.

The Old Kent road proposal makes much more sense

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How selfish of you who don't think a connection is > needed. What about the poor sods who have to > labour up and down Walworth Road on the often > full-to-burst buses, for whom a faster connection > into London would help them get to schools, > colleges, places of work and cultural venues more > conveniently. That Camberwell has no rail service > - underground or overground - is unfair and for > that reason alone I'd welcome a rail link of some > kind for SE5 (and a Tube link for SE22/15 too). I very regularly get the 12 from Peckham rye to oxford circus- door to door 45 mins. 25 mins from camberwell. Denmark hill overground is also very close. A little patience and effort go a long way.

Zebedee Tring Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If I understand you correctly, wavyline, you are > saying that it would be a shame if the tube was > extended to Camberwell or the ED area. Are you > serious? I agree that it would be a shame. From a purely selfish point of view. Besides- central London is easily accessible from Peckham Rye already

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > titch juicy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Not a chance with Klopp. > > > > He's just turned down Barca, turned down a > whole > > host if clubs last summer And just this week > said > > he's still too much in love with BVB to go > > anywhere else. A few years down the line > maybe, > > but not now. > > > > My money would be on Van Gaal or a gamble on > > Giggs. Outside chance of Simeone I suppose. > > > You've changed your tune on LVG ;-) > > I agree that Klopp is unlikely, it's a preference > rather than a prediction. I wouldn't say no chance > though. Maybe he thinks he's taken Dortmund as far > as he can. It can't be good for morale to see his > best players leave for their main rivals. > With regards to the Barca job, a lot of potential > candidates will be put off by their transfer > embargo. A new manager will usually want new > players. > > I expect Giggs will be a stand-in, but surely no > more. We need proven managerial experience. Great > players don't always make great managers.... Changed my tune on LVG? What did I say? My memory is terrible. If it was about him coming to spurs, I'd stand by it if Moyes was kept on. If United were managerless then it wouldn't be a tough choice between the two.

Or Gary Neville

Not a chance with Klopp. He's just turned down Barca, turned down a whole host if clubs last summer And just this week said he's still too much in love with BVB to go anywhere else. A few years down the line maybe, but not now. My money would be on Van Gaal or a gamble on Giggs. Outside chance of Simeone I suppose.

Out of interest, why do City fans called United 'rags'?

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ah, Mr Selective I see. I did read your post > properly...all of it. > You did say "variety of world class goals", but > you also then went on to say... > > 30 yard screamers, sprints with ball from the half > way line, beating 3 players in a tight space in > the box, volleys, free kicks, headers, both feet, > tap-ins. Not one-offs either. You look at his last > 50 goals (this season and last) and it's pretty > much extraordinary the range of different types of > goals he's scored. I don't think there's another > player in the world that has that variety to the > same extent. > > Ronaldo clearly is another player who has scored a > variety of goals you describe. Are you now saying > that these different type of goals have to be > world class to be considered? If so, perhaps you'd > like to post a link to some world class tap-ins > please :) > > The Ballon d'Or isn't a little irrelevant in this > case. It's nothing to do with number of goals > scored (I think you may be confusing it with the > Golden Shoe/Boot?) Pre-2010 it was awarded to the > European Player of the Year, voted by journos. > Then in 2010 the Ballon d'Or superseded the old > 'FIFA World Player of the Year' and is now awarded > to the best player voted by international > captains, coaches and journos. > So before 2010 you had 2 awards, 'FIFA World > Player of the Year', voted by coaches etc and the > old Ballon d'Or (European Footballer of the Year). > Ronaldo won both these awards in 2008...both for > quality not quantity. I stand corrected on all counts.

faruk1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So, Barcelona FC will finish the season without > any title! > They have lost the spanish cup yesterday. They > have already out of Champion league and almost > losing the League titel. > I am a great fan of Barcelona but very upset with > their performance. ..and two trasnfer windows without any transfers. The whole season serves them right.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Moving the goalposts now are we? :) > You originally said no one scores the variety of > goals that Bale scores, which was quickly > disproved with a tiny selection. > You're right, Ronaldo doesn't score 30 yard > screamers, he scores 40 yard ones... > > I think it might be you that's moving the goal posts- if you read my post properly you'll see that I said "variety of world class goals" with the emphasis on world class. Which was nothing like proven from that small collection. In fact there was only one in the twelve that was anywhere near approaching world class. However; after a quick review of youtube, I can see that I was wrong. My memory failed me, i didn't remember Ronaldo scoring the spectacular goals other than freekicks. The Ballon D'or is a little irrelevant in this case though as it's number of goals scored. I've never doubted that Ronaldo was better in terms of quantity. I still maintain that Bale, by 24 was better in terms of quality. And most of it, bar a few has been in the last season and a half. And, I'll reiterate that I don't think Bale is a better player than Ronaldo.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Are you having a Giraffe? :) > Here's a video of his first 12 goals this season, > ticks most of your boxes, oh, and a couple of > penalties thrown in too.. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2HJTQCZzCA In that video there are 3 headers, 3 tap-ins, 1 dribble past 1 player, 2 pens, 1 cheeky backheel, 1 free kick and 1 low drive from the edge of the area. He doesn't score the unstoppable 30 yard screamers like Bale has done this season, and about 6 or 7 of them last season. He doesn't pick the ball up in his own half, tear past 4 or 5 players and score. Bale, by the age of 24 has a MUCH better selection of goals than Ronaldo had at that age. I'm not saying for one moment that Bale is better than Ronaldo right now; but he scores better goals. And if his career trajectory continues at the pace that it has in the last 3 seasons, he will go on to win world player of the year. He has more in his repertoire than Ronaldo had at that age. Alonso after last night, "it was amazing. I don?t think I?ve ever seen anything like it, It seemed like the ball had gone out and he was pushed, but he just ran off the field. Impressive." And he's played with and against Ronaldo for years. Check this video from last season. 31 goals I think, and only about 5 or 6 of them weren't brilliant in one way or another.

he scores a lot more goals, but nothing like the variety that bale does

He's come in for some criticism in his first season, despite leading la liga's assists table and scoring 20 goals in all comps (including half a dozen spectacular ones).I think the criticism has come because most of his goals have come in comfortable (3+ goals) victories, same with assists. Whereas Ronaldo, for example scored important winners. He put that to bed last night though. Bale's main strength for me is the variety of world class goals he scores. 30 yard screamers, sprints with ball from the half way line, beating 3 players in a tight space in the box, volleys, free kicks, headers, both feet, tap-ins. Not one-offs either. You look at his last 50 goals (this season and last) and it's pretty much extraordinary the range of different types of goals he's scored. I don't think there's another player in the world that has that variety to the same extent.

Peckham is a damned sight more interesting and isn't full of buggies.

You couldn't write it eh. In today's money ?600m on transfers and ?5.4m AVERAGE per man per year only buys one title. And now it seems they're about to finish third in a two horse race. The rest of world sport must be having a rare old chuckle. In other news; I bet Gareth Bale's delighted he made the move away from Spurs. Just scored a wonder goal winner in the Copa Del Rey final against Barcelona.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Individual one-off player fees isn't the issue > though is it? I've found that it's fairly typical > of City fans to massage the facts to suit in > recent years (I have a couple of close friends as > city fans). > > The HALF A BILLION spent over four seasons 2008 - > 2012 and the massive wages paid to a large number > of players, is what irks. No club, not even > Chelsea comes close to that. Well there's a surprise. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27046221

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Liverpool's performance on Sunday..... > > Thought overall impressive but when it went to 2-2 > I thought there was only going to be one winner > and thought a number of Liverpool players went > missing, especially Suarez who thought at 2-2 that > the only way to win an important game was by > fooling the referee into penalties/free kicks he > didn't deserve, and clearly lost his composure by > being regularly caught offside. The winner was a > bit of an opportunistic effort, brilliantly > taken. > > Liverpool of course won't mind one bit how they > got the points, any win against MC is fantastic, > but they do seem to freeze a bit when teams come > back at them. > > My worry is that, assuming they beat Norwich??, > that against Chelsea, they wont be able to > establish that early lead, Chelsea being what they > are. Considering that Liverpool have won ten PL games in a row and that Chelsea's away form is patchy- i think Liverpool are strong favourites for that game and for the League title now. Plus Chelsea have the small matter of a two legs of a CL semifinal either side of the game.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > titch juicy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > In that respect, and as Spurs fan, i'd rather > > Arsenal won the league in front of Chelsea and > > City. > > Go and wash your mouth out with carbolic soap and > water. As a Spurs fan your dislike of Chelsea > should be a smidgeon less than the Goons. The game's changing Jah- 10 years ago it would have undoubtedly been the case- but I have a grudging respect for them now- the times of hating someone just because i'm 'supposed' to is behind me. The banter with gooners is still good for a laugh, but irrational hatred is a thing best left in the 20th century. I like good reasons for hating football teams now- city and chelsea have that in spades.