titch juicy

What is the new kid on the block? Is there a rival/alternative forum?

A victim of it's own success and good weather? I popped over for an hour at lunchtime yesterday and it was unbearably busy. It's clearly a great event but is there an argument to moving it somewhere that can comfortably accommodate more people (and more loos)? Peckham Rye Common perhaps?

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > titch juicy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Mick Mac Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > A few predictors seemed to be heart over > head. > > We > > > are all filled with hope at the beginning of > a > > new > > > season I guess. > > > > I dunno. > > To win the league the predictions were: > > RD: Man United > Otta: Liverpool > Jah: Spurs > PD: Arsenal Ah, apologies. I get you.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A few predictors seemed to be heart over head. We > are all filled with hope at the beginning of a new > season I guess. I dunno. The bookies pre-season odds were like a lot of the predictions. They had Spurs as 6th favourites for the league, behind the rest of the top 6. They assumed that City and United would both improve under Pep and Maureen as we all probably did. They probably thought that Klopp, in his second season, would impress more particularly with no european football as a distraction.

Duvaller Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > malumbu Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > Blair was a disicple of > > Thatcher. We lost the engineering and > > manufacturing bsse mcuh earlier. She shagged > the > > NW, the NE, the Midlands and South Wales then. > He > > may of finished it off, but certainly didn't > start > > it. And until Lehman Brother etc (and I am > sure > > that others better placed to say the warning > signs > > were there) things had in deed Only Got Better. > > > > > > But if we are beter at doing things than making > > things then so be it. If my kids don't know > what > > a lathe is, does it matter? > > It's just not right to blame Thatcher for the UK's > industrial decline. It was/is a trend that has > shrunk manufacturing in many developed countries > as production moved to lower cost countries. I > recall visiting Buffalo NY state in the late 70's > and saw mile after mile of abandoned steel works > and factories- since called the rust belt. > > As our standard of living has improved in the UK, > it is simply not feasable to pay a miner a > sensible wage to dig coal out of an underground > pit when coal can be imported from open cast mines > at about 20% of the cost. Thatcher did not cause > that and shouldn't be blamed for it. > > There were other significant factors that > accelerated the UK's industrial decline and I will > mention one here now. Having started out with a > major motor manufacturer in the mid to late 60's, > I saw it all unfold over the next thirty years. > The single biggest tipping point was the crippling > effect of militant unions running wild under a > Labour government. > > The never-ending strikes crippled the > car/van/truck/bus manufacturers financially and > product quality deteriorated. Loss of > profitability led to lack of product and > facilities development. On top of this, we lost > our export markets as cars from Japan and > elsewhere were much better value. > > This led to the eventual demise of much of the > Midlands based vehicle manufacturers with knock-on > effects to associated manufacturing companies. > Five jobs are lost at suppliers for every job lost > by the car manufacturer., so the effect is > leveraged across the whole industrial sector. > > Blame most of it on the likes of "Red Robbo", > Arthur Scargill and other union leaders who were > power hungry and had ideological and political > ambitions. These are the ones that cost me my job > and my pension when my employer folded. > > The tragedy is that younger voters have no direct > experience or even knowledge of such issues. > That's why Labour is always keen to lower the > voting age. It's how she dealt with the demise of mining and the mining communities, not that she caused it, that is the big issue no?

Also gutted I wasn't at the Lane yesterday. I didn't have enough membership loyalty points and gave myself a budget of ?400 to get a ticket online. In the end that would've paid for about half a ticket. Still, some great memories from the 35 years i've been going and seen some amazing players in that time (Hoddle- the greatest, Ardiles, Mabbutt, Lineker, Gazza, Waddle, Ginola, Klinsmann, Sheringham, Ledley King, Bale, Modric, Peter Crouch, Eriksen, Kane, Alli).

DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > " The real point about the Corbyn manifesto is not, > in any event, about what is the appropriate fiscal > multiplier. Trying to implement even a fraction > of that manifesto will hit business confidence > both in the UK and externally so hard that the > negative effects will massively outweigh any > benefits. " Can you explain why you think that would be? Thanks

Thanks all. The top of Crystal Palace park sounds like a good idea.

Does anyone know of a good view looking south in the area? The only public space i can think of is from the top of Canonbie Rd (do I mean Canonbie?) but i'd prefer somewhere less residential, somewhere you can stay a while.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's not a matter of seats; it's a matter of vote > share. If the Lib Dem vote share jumps - > especially in London - > that is the message. Look at the hassle UKIP > increasing its vote share to 14-15% caused. > Imagine if the Lib Dems started polling 20% in > urban areas. > > And anyway, never say never ... look at what > happened in the Richmond by-election - a 23,000 > majority overturned. It can be done. It's a matter of both, for different reasons. The seat puts the person in parliament, the vote share sends a message. And increasing the Lib Dems vote share has to start somewhere. If everyone only voted for the two parties most likely to get in, they will forever only be the two parties that will ever get in. They get an increased share this time, it may influence more people to get behind them for the next London local elections and then the next GE after that.

Borky- what's your criticism of him? I'm no fan personally. But rather than empty one liners, why not offer something up in opposition?

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > titch juicy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It feels like it's a case of the EU acting with > > some class and May acting like a spoilt child > who > > doesn't want to share with other children, but > > starts crying when the other children take > their > > toys away. > > > I don't like May, but I like this kind of analogy > even less > > Leavers use this language regularly, I'm not sure > whether you are one or not > > And actually, I don't give a toss I'm a remainer. I'm only calling it as it feels to me. Can you explain why you don't like it?

It feels like it's a case of the EU acting with some class and May acting like a spoilt child who doesn't want to share with other children, but starts crying when the other children take their toys away.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > titch juicy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It has nothing to do with the actual numbers or > > the policy, it's that she messed up something > so > > basic live on the radio. > > Does it really matter in the greater scheme of > things? May said 9 times there wouldn't be a snap > election. > > > > With this and John McDonnell being photographed > > yesterday giving a speech under the Hammer & > > Sickle and Ba'athist flag, any advances Labour > had > > made in the last two weeks will now likely have > > been completely undone.- > > Jeez. Do you really think that's important? If so > why? Because of Corbyn's silence and refusal to condemn the Assad regime/Russian/Iranian led atrocities in Aleppo. Mainly because he's either completely ignorant of what's happening there and who the main players are- or he's sympathetic to them. Either way, as a supposed moral giant, it's truly a massive failure. Him calling for UN, not military intervention is naive at very best. Plus, allowing McDonnell to be filmed under those two flags at election time is cannon fodder to the right wing press and therefore voters. They should not be giving the Daily Mail these photo opps.

http://thebackbencher.co.uk/john-mcdonnells-may-day-speech-was-a-moral-disgrace/

It has nothing to do with the actual numbers or the policy, it's that she messed up something so basic live on the radio. With this and John McDonnell being photographed yesterday giving a speech under the Hammer & Sickle and Ba'athist flag, any advances Labour had made in the last two weeks will now likely have been completely undone.

It's almost like he wants to lose. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-tv-debates-wont-take-part-without-theresa-may-general-election-2017_uk_59009af2e4b081a5c0f9645a

The softest brexit possible.

This is rather nice http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2017/04/21/dosomethingkind-people-share-random-acts-kindness-inspired-byugo/

Ugo Ehiougu. Just so sad :( http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/ugo-ehiogu-dead-dies-died-tottenham-aston-villa-middlesbrough-england-heart-attack-cause-of-death-a7694311.html

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > titch juicy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > The cyclist can still use the cycle lane, just > > hang back in the cycle lane until the vehicle > has > > turned and it's safe to proceed. > > That's why I'm scared to cycle > > You can hang back 364 days of the year - but the > one time you forget you're in extreme danger. > > The cycle lane could lull you into a false sense > of security. If the vehicle is indicating to turn it shouldn't be a case of remembering. It's like saying that 364 days a year you remember not to step out into the fast lane of a motorway into oncoming traffic. Or, 364 days a year you remember not to throw yourself onto the tracks in front of a train. Or, 364 days a year you remember to breath.

Laurence Smith. I've found some information on him, although I was convinced he was a winger. Still, a 17st centre in those days was not all muscle. Very little was muscle from memory! John Buckton 1984 ? 1996 John Buckton, one of the most outstanding three-quarters ever to represent the club, joined Saracens from Hull and East Riding teaming up alongside the 17 stone Laurence Smith to form a highly successful centre partnership. His deceptive snipe-like running made an immediate impact, and he scored eight tries in his first season. He was also selected for the Northern Division against Romania in December 1984.

Wouldn't be at all surprised to see Yvette Cooper as next Labour leader.

bmoney Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Did anyone see if the lorry was indicating left? > Also, did anyone see if the cyclist was on the > inside of the lorry? > > The 'infrastructure' there encourages cyclists to > go on the inside of vehicles. Up until the > introduction of Bikeability cyclists were > generally taught to stay on the left and always > use bike lanes - an attitude that many cyclists > and drivers still retain. People often have a go a > cyclists for not using bike lanes, even though the > legacy ones are often pretty dangerous, so it's > not beyond reason to see why many cyclists go on > the inside of vehicles. The cyclist can still use the cycle lane, just hang back in the cycle lane until the vehicle has turned and it's safe to proceed.

jacks09 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a big bold claim.....coming from someone who > detests....actually really detests > Saracens......Farrell is the best 12 in the world. I'm a Saracens fan, but have been since the days of Bramley Road, John Buckton, Floyd Steadman, Larry The Lamb (can't remember his real name, but he was a fat winger - a proper fan's favourite) and there was a Scotland international who's name I can't remember. My Dad used to take me to the games when I was a kid and I remember epic clashes, particularly against the Welsh teams of the time; Swansea (with Maurice Colclough), Bridgend, Newport. Also big amateur games against London Welsh, Richmond, Rosslyn Park. I also remember all the players joining the fans in the bar after the game (and on occasion at half time!!).