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I think I'd put them in my green general household bin .

But it wasn't all you were saying James . " Harris feel neglected and my take is these proposals are one sad result from that. " I quite agree that there should be dialogue between schools and Southwark .Out of interest have Harris made any requests for meetings with Southwark that have been refused ?

I'm sure you're right James - about there being roads with no shops ,houses or schools - but i can't think of any .

" roads with no homes or shops or schools " golly ,do such roads exist in East Dulwich ?

I use Napisan a lot on colour fast or white fabrics and it's excellent at removing stains . I'm not sure about it removing colour dye that's run though . But good luck and let us know if it works .

Interesting read ,thanks fuschia .

Oh for heavens sake James ,Renata said it was a good school not that it's Ofsted rating was good . You're suggesting that Harris want to move to a lottery system because Labour councillors aren't polite enough to them and because they feel neglected ? If Harris are allowing factors such as rudeness and " neglect " ( imagined or otherwise ) to influence how they formulate admissions policy what kind of educators are they ?

"I wonder will there be sufficient health facilities to serve this increase in the population? Where will those facilities go....?" I share your concern firstmate . But I've found that raising such concerns in advance of a crisis is met with silence . I campaigned against all of Southwark's secondary schools being taken out of l.a control and handed over to private enterprise . No one on here was interested ,few people on Lordship Lane were interested . Now we have multiple admission criteria ,a large chain which seems at best not to be advancing the public demand for a secondary school on the hospital site and causing concern by a low profile move to change the admissions policy at ED girls school .

Nunhead cemetary ?

Maybe it's the introduction of the traffic light/crossing over lordship Lane that's increased the danger to pedestrians crossing EDG .

Aah such a lovely car ,it's owner must be absent/ill/worse to abandon it .

Surely it's not really the lifeguards business to police swimming etiquette ? Unless of course the behaviour is life threatening ?

Excellent news .Hope you are succesful .

Did anyone submit comments on the application for 30 Hindmans ? None shown online http://planningonline.southwark.gov.uk/AcolNetCGI.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeDocs&TheSystemkey=9557120 Surprised .

Oh be quiet - don't try and shift the reasons for your hasty and incorrect judgement . Why is the onus on the charity to hone it's on line presentation skills and not on the likes of you to be a bit more alert at the actual point of sale . Or even just not to be so quick to jump to conclusions .

Terrific OP ,Loz and grace - there's some dodgy operations so lets just use that as justification for thinking that this is . Despite the 8 ft high board showing how much money raised so far for St Christopher's with the headed A4 letter notice attached to it and the jacket emblazoned St Christopher's Hospice worn by the lady serving .

I bought a tree there on Monday and the lady was lovely ,insisted on holding trees up together for comparison . And we got a fantastic tree for a great price .

Quite agree kiera . I didn't agree with dismissing the whole process of consultations by saying they didn't constitute a ballot . Was quoting to illustrate how shoddy ( not to mention hugely expensive ) consultations often are .

Mmm ,as I've been memorably told " A consultation isn't the same thing as a rolling ballot ,you don't just vote for what you want ."

Ed - as I understand it is the scale of the proposal to build a school on MOL that would require the application to be approved by the secretary of state and takes it out of Southwark's remit .

I really don't know how many times I need to say this but the decision to build on MOL is not made by Southwark . They can apply ( as they have done in the past to extend school buildings on the Homestall site ) but it would clearly be silly to apply when the application will be so out of line with the national policy . http://planningguidance.planningportal.gov.uk/blog/guidance/open-space-sports-and-recreation-facilities-public-rights-of-way-and-local-green-space/local-green-space-designation/ As I said before James - please do share these many cases where schools have built on MOL . Applications to extend are permitted if there is sufficient space . But this is not the same as building an entire school . Especially since the Homestall MOL is a considerably smaller area than that of the MOL of some of the private schools in Southwark .

Yes Southwark can apply - for example they had to apply for the temporary buildings currently housing thetemp classrooms and before that for extensions to the secondary school . But they can't grant permission . It's one thing to apply for a few temp classrooms or a Theatre or a Music room on MOL ,especially if like some of the private schools this is only going to take a small percentage of open land . It's another thing to apply for permission for a whole school on a space that has already been extended into .And where the head of the existing school is saying there isn't space . Should Southwark ignore the national policy ,go against the policy and waste money putting an application in ? So

James 1 ITS NOT UP TO SOUTHWARK TO APPROVE BUILDING ON MOL 2 " Repeatedly " - do tell , I can only think of one instance and this involved one building ( not an entire school). As far as I understand it extensions can be approved provided sufficient open land remains. 3 In the past approval for extensions of school building on MOL at Homestall Rd have been put forward by Southwark and approved . So not one rule for state and another for private . 4 There is very limited land left at Homestall Rd to build without impacting on the "open space " requirement of MOL protection . 5 Approval for an extension for an educational building ( be it private or state ) is not the same thing as approval for a whole new school .

Oh it hurts doesn't it ? Many sympathies .

Link to consultation and feedback form here http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200308/current/3639/townley_road