indiepanda

Nope, making plans for the morning after the drinks was not a wise move on my part! I didn't realise how late it got last night - one minute it seemed to be a short while after 11.... next thing I knew when I got home it was well gone 2. I thought it was more like 12 something or maybe pushing 1. Really odd thing is I seem to have reset my facebook status at 5 something.... I knew I didn't go to bed straight away when I got in, but I wasn't aware of being downstairs on line for more than a few minutes. Did I fall asleep sitting up then wake up again and go to bed without realising it??? Not good. Anyway, hangover aside, a great night, nice to meet lots of new people and catch up with ones from previous drinks.

Keef Wrote: > Blur - Not sure "unwanted reunion" is fair, being > that they've sold out the gigs in a matter of > minutes. That said, I liked them lots 10 years > ago, don't think I'd rush to see them now. Would > go if someone gave me a ticket though. Yeah, I'll be going to see them at Hyde Park. I don't think they were overrated. After the whole "country house" versus "roll with it" debacle they weren't really the most attention seeking of bands, and they've got a great back catalogue to make a gig good. I've been to see a few too many bands at festivals that have only had one or two albums - I don't want to hear the filler material someone has padded out an album with when I see them live, I want all the good stuff, and blur have plenty. Saw them some 10-11 years ago and they were pretty damn good live.

Ah don't be shy Shell. I came on my own my first time and everyone was really friendly and welcoming. In fact first time I came was a pub crawl the day after I moved to East Dulwich, and I didn't know anyone here before that so it was a nice way to start to get to know people in the area. (note to self, must work less and do more of this!!!) I know the last time I went (November or October I think...) I got chatting to another chap came on his own, having not even posted before, just having read the forum and he said he had a really good time. There are quite a few first timers planning to come this time too so it would be a great time to come along, I'm sure you won't regret it.

As in she isn't going to see/talk to him for at least a week do you mean?

The fun thing will be trying to remember which face went with which real name AND which board name... makes it just that bit more complicated - and you wouldn't want to be PM-ing the wrong person after the event. I can be bad enough just connecting names and faces when I meet a large number people in one go.

Don't worry Keef, I was being slighly mischievious in taking a slightly too literal interpretation of what you had said - I know you are the resident Mr Reasonable of the forum really. And I'm inclined to agree there are some women out there who would like the bragging rights, I hope I don't end up ever feeling like that, but I probably shouldn't judge having not been there.

giggirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > OMG, how am I going to get to Selfridges now. The > will to live is slipping away from me. Does number 12 still go to Oxford Circus?

Not sure I agree, if you really are over your ex I don't see that you'd need to prove it to them by marrying someone else in front of them - if you still have something to prove that smacks of unfinished business to me. And the idea of a weddng giving me "bragging rights" over another woman leaves me cold - cheapens the whole thing - hardly romantic. I would want my wedding to be about making a public committment to my husband, not sticking two fingers up at their ex wife. (I realize you didn't go THAT far in what you said Keef, am over dramaticizing a little for effect!)

Not sure believing in God means you'd be going to church all the time. My dad is a believer, but he doesn't believe in religion because of all the dreadful things done in the name of religion. I was raised a catholic, though would probably class myself as agnostic now, if not athiest, but I have to say I think he is right, if there were a god, he would weep at all the things that his believers do in his name. Only need to look at our history - if it wasn't the Christians off on the crusades in the holy land in the middle ages, it was Henry VIII setting up his own church to get a divorce and executing anyone who stood in his way (e.g. Thomas More), then his oldest daughter executing anyone who didn't turn back to the Catholic church when she took power to the oppression of Catholics in Northern Ireland etc etc... Ok, most of these things were in conflict with the real teachings of those faiths - but an unfortunate minority people seem to be pretty good at using religion to justify some pretty bad behaviour - worse often than those with no faith.

The thing I find odd is that it sounds like he has only just discovered 3 months before the wedding that the new wife won't socialize with the old. Has he not tried to socialize with them both in the past - and if not, why not? Or was the wife to be ok about it until he tried to invite the ex to the wedding? Am curious to know how long he has been with the wife to be. I am assuming it can't be that long if he has only been divorced 3 years, although I suppose I am working on the assumption she wasn't his reason for the first divorce (possibly not unreasonably since he is still friends with the first wife).

Kingsbury David Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The trouble is all the companies (nearly all abroad) who take over ours want their presence over here. I know what you mean, but can't blame that in the case of Aviva / Norwich Union - it is a British company and remains so, just a rebranded one because they wanted one global brand instead of lots of different ones - they were NU in the UK, Commericial Union in Poland, Hibernian in Ireland etc etc.

I think it's one thing having ex boyfriends / girlfriends / flings at your wedding, it's another thing entirely having the ex wife / husband. I don't think I would want a reminder on my wedding day that my new spouse had already stood up and made the same vows to someone else sat a few rows back watching us. Kind of makes a mockery of the whole "till death do us part..." thing. But I guess it would depend how recent the divorce was / circumstances around it / whether I actually liked the ex etc....

I'm sure I would feel better when the alarm clock went off if I got a good 8 hours in first. However, I like to have some time to myself before I go to bed in the evening, and I often work late, so it's not unusual for me to only get to bed 11.30-12, and then I often read in bed, and if I get really gripped by something it might be well past midnight before I get to sleep. I reckon most of the week I get by on 6-7 hours max, and I can still function at work on 4. Have done so on less when I've been working especially daft hours, though I can only keep that up for a couple of days before I start to get a bit dizzy with exhaustion.

Yes, mine went missing soon after I moved in. I've twice ordered a new one but yet to receive, if it doesn't show this week I am throwing my toys out the pram.

Moos Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Also a difference between someone coming on and saying someone who looks good (I refuse to say 'nice') and someone else being prepared to admit that they think they do... I agree - I could quite cheerfully praise my friends appearances, but it's just not in my nature to praise my own appearance. I think all most of us - well, perhaps most women anyway, find it much easier to see our faults than our strengths. > I think Indiepanda looks good for what it's worth! Thank you (*blushes*) Look forward to meeting you too Miles.

RosieH Wrote: > quite right - I nearly had a heart attack last > time I settled up at the hairdressers. With the > credit crunch and all I might need to desert my > regular in favour of someone a bit cheaper. Add > to that waxing, make up and sanitary products > (which aren't even VAT-free) and I think a fella > paying ?30 for a haircut is a bargain. You're not wrong.. Not sure I could desert my current hairdresser though - I've had enough bad experiences when I find someone good I tend to be loyal. I don't tend to go so often these days though - good cuts seem to last a little longer.

PeckhamRose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Shame that Norwich Union is changing it's name to that of a bus company - or near enough that people may confuse it thus. lol, I used to work for them, and that was what most of us thought when they came up with the new name for the group after the last merger (which to be fair was better than the name of CGNU at the merger). At that time they told us Aviva would only be used for the group and not the commercial trading brand because NU was such a strong brand in the UK, but I guess they've had a change of management and sometimes it seems no management team is comfortable to stick with someone else's decision no matter how sensible it was....

Miles Wrote: > I havent defined my taste at all and you have decided you arent good enough for me. That really saddens me. You mistake me, I just assume (perhaps erroneously) starting out on a difference of opinion isn't what most people want, which isn't the same as me deciding I am not good enough. Not that I see how anyone could judge they were good enough either given the lack of definition. Anyway, as people have very sensibly said, come to the drinks and you can make up your own mind if there is anyone who meets your definition, whatever it may be.

The Foo fighters are kind of dull, saw them at the IOW festival too and I couldn't tell one song from the next. Actually, that reminds me of another band that I can't get the appeal, Muse. I'd heard they were meant to be amazing live, but when I saw them at a festival I got so bored I wandered off to get the bus home rather than wait till they finished and join a longer queue. Plenty of fancy lights and all that, but not exactly into engaging with the crowd... I prefer a bit more banter, bit more emotional connection (Ashcroft on politics aside... I'm a fussy sod!).

Miles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am frustrated that people are picking me up for asking for someone nice looking? That is such a simple thing. > Do you consider yourself nice looking? > I think I'm nice looking, if I didn't I would do something about it. > When you leave the house in the morning, do you look like you've been pulled through a hedge, or do you look 'nice'? > I'd have thought anyone could at least attain nice. > I intentionally left it there, as I have with presentable, exactly because they are indefineable. There's a world of difference for me between not looking like I've been pulled through a hedge when I leave the house and me actually being happy to suggest to someone whose taste I don't know that I look nice. Perhaps we have different perceptions of how high a standard "nice" is? Anyway, I'm sure I've successfully convinced you I am not the girl you are looking for, but I do wish you luck in finding her.

Who said anything about me going out with anyone who said hello on the internet, freak or otherwise? Look, I am not saying you should be willing to go out with someone you find turns your stomach physically, I think that's a given everyone wants someone they find attractive. I just know personally someone's character is a big deturminant of how attractive I find someone - I've found myself attracted to people who if you'd just shown me a photo I wouldn't have been especially interested in because they were such great company. And vice versa come to that - totally my "type" in looks, but personality drives me up the wall. In any case, "nice looking" is in the eye of the beholder - who knows what presentable means to you to be able to judge if they fit the bill?

RosieH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ?30 haircuts and no "feminine items" to buy... > > That said, fellas do tend to get their hair cut > more often so maybe it balances out a bit? ?20 per month compared to my ?100 every 2-3 months... doesn't quite balance. But then if I stuck to the hair cut and put up wit the grey it would probably work. I'm sure we get lots of extra costs elsewhere though. Men get to wear socks instead of tights, that's got to be a major saving surely??

Ouch - was that just for a haircut or did it include colour? I usually pay just over ?100, but that does include a full dye job each time.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Verve. @#$%& yeah! Second album was half > decent (History is a great track) but still had a > load of filler and overbloated shite on it and > rest of their output with Dickie Ashcroft's > inflatable megolomaniacal ego to fore is just > awful. Ashcroft can be a complete t****r. I saw him at the Isle of Wight festival three years ago and he was mumbling on for what seemed like ages about not voting Blair cos of Iraq, but then not voting Tory either, and then on about politics and music not mixing... I think the whole audience were stood there thinking... "yes, we agree, now quit rambling and sing".. Not that he was that entertaining at that either, but at least better on that than the politics.

It was still damn cold when I headed into work for 9, and by the time I got home my flat was icy cold and that was after an unusually short day - i.e. one where I worked less than an our over unpaid overtime than the 3 - 13 hours of daily unpaid overtime I've been notching up most days in the last few months. God knows I am glad to have a job, but when you've been in the office for 18 hours at a stretch, you feel entitled to at least think some pretty rude thoughts about your employer!