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Having a 'belief' is not evidence Dulwich Fox. The statement you post is a lot of opinion and NO evidence whatsoever. Horses can carry loads far heavier than a human being. Unless you have scientific evidence on the anatomy of horses that can prove otherwise, you are posting nonsense. And I say that as someone who comes from a family of horse owners. But more than that, the anatomy of muscle, tendons, ligaments is well understood. You won't find a single horse vet who thinks a 5 min canter around a circus ring carrying a human is particularly stressful.

There is nothing harmful in using horses cantering around a circus ring for 5 mins, because really, that is about the length of the horse performance. The same is true for the budgies. Reality check. Horses in riding schools do far more. Anyone who thinks these horses are suffering really does not now anything about horses or horse welfare.

The horses are well looked after and there is no harm to them or the budgies.

Yes, saw them this morning. Southwark will no doubt be already working on the eviction notice.

I grew up with horses. my parents still have them on their farm. I have no issue with horses being used by Zippos, they are well looked after and always look very healthy to me. Horses are exercised in circles every day by most owners. Cantering around a circus ring is no stress to a horse. DulwichFox is right about horse racing though. That is why race horses continue to race and jump after unseating a rider. It is a sport that has elements of cruelty both in training and what happens at the end of a horses useful racing life. Show jumping is not a hobby either. It is also a business, with the best jumpers being worth a lot as stud. Most people who keep horses do something to earn an income from those horses, even if it is just from a riding school. Without these things, there would be far fewer horses out there. They are very expensive to keep.

Yes it is part of living in a big city. Sometimes people have parties at the weekends. They have to be unreasonably loud for a noise team or Police to shut them down and they won't do that at 11pm.

Basically it goes like this. The Tory Brexiteers want a deal that keeps all the beneifits of being in the single market and customs union, without having to be be members of or pay for access to it. The EU have rightly told them they are in la la land. This has been the attitude of the government brexit supporters since even before the referendum. At what point do they wake up and realise that we are no longer an Empire that rules half the world. Meanwhile, the pound continues to fall, prices continue to rise and economic growth and investment continue to contract. Just on Japan. May is also wishful thinking if she expects to get a quickie trade deal with Japan. Jappan's focus is on sucuring their own EU trade deal right now, and rightly so, as a market of 500 million trumps a market of 68 million. Japanese companies will not keep car plants in the UK if we have no access to the single market and customs union. We all know that Nissan were promised access as part of those secret talks to keep their plant in the UK. So that seems to be a scandal waiting to hit the **** fan, especially if the government offered to offset tariffs in the event of a no deal on the single market. The cost of offsetting car exports subject to WTO tariffs would be ?3-4bn annually. ?20bn of our annual exports are in cars and WTO tariffs range from 10%-20% depending on type of vehicle, engine size, fuel type etc.

All of this lol

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > (I have mentioned this several times)- when the > local council is of a different political > persuasion than the government, then money will be > diverted from the front line at every > opportunity...you voted for them That would be why the leader of Tory led Oxford council complained personally to Cameron about central government funding cuts then. Ditto Rendel - you don't half write some cobblers.

keano77 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Except the EU won't negotiate this until the > divorce bill is agreed ..." > > True. But as I've said before, any agreement on > the divorce bill ought to be conditional. Not one > cent to the EU until a trade deal acceptable to > the UK Parliament is agreed. Then you are asking for no deal. We are leaving the EU, not the other way round remember. Holding any divorce bill to ransom on a trade deal is only going to piss the EU off. They will never go for it. And you have to remember that any agreement is subject not only to our own parliament, but also the 27 members of the EU parliament agreeing too. Time is running out for getting any of this done. We can not leave it to the 11th hour. Trade agreements are very complex to negotiate in themselves, because every single good or service to be included has to be negotiated. There is no such thing as a free trade deal. CETA, which took ten years to negotiate, excludes a whole raft of things from tariff free trade. Only access to the single market delivers a 100% free trade agreement. And it is the time it takes to negotiate trade deals that is the reason behind the request for a transitional period lasting however many years it takes to get new trade deals in place. The cost to UK business of WTO tariffs is just too high a price to pay.

Except the EU won't negotiate this until the divorce bill is agreed and the status of EU nationals is agreed. I don't understand what part of that this the government doesn't understand. The EU have consistently stated this from the start. How long is the UK going to wait before discussing these things? They have already wasted almost 5 months and agreed on nothing. But what is very clear, is all the nonsense about no deal being ok really is nonsense that will cost UK business and the economy dear, and the Tories know it.

Right decision to drop this project. Too expensive for now.

Just one point dbboy. The council have been forced to makes cuts because of huge cuts in central government funding. To pretend that is not a factor would be unfair. The council has been using it's surplus to offset those cuts, built up when times were better, but that surplus has finally run out. So in the current climate, it is reasonable to ask if this communications expediture really was necessary, and if the most cost effective decision was taken. Any cuts however, are a direct consequence of central government policy.

It is right to replace the former Blackberry's in use, because Blackberry is on it's way out of the market. But why iphone over ANY android platform? Apps are not cheap to develop either.

I think the use of technology makes sense, but there ARE cheaper alternatives to apple products for the same technological benefits. The same Fiona Colley reported at a past CLP meeting that Southwark Council faces a ?20 million black hole on social care funding next year. This might be something a local Labour Party branch might want to pursue as well - why the council appear to be going for the more expensive option in providing this technology? I personally would also like to know what other alternatives they considered.

And where does that leave David Davis in terms of negotiating a 'transition phase' to protect trade? To me, that 2019 line sounds like election talk. Still keeping with Brexit means Brexit.....

The problem is that leavers have no understanding of or interest in detail. Their world is one of black and white absolutes, where you only need to change one thing for the better, to change everything for the better. Take EU immigration for example. Belguim deports anyone who does not find a job within three months and it is perfectly within EU rules to do so. But how many leaves voters even know that. What has happened is that free marketeers like Farage, who want an end to regulation so that the barons can make even more money at the cost of the rest of us, have turned the EU into the bogeyman, the source of all woes, when in fact, it is our own successive governments that have created the economy we live within. The naivety of it all is truly astounding, perfectly illustrated here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmtRUB-gM4s&list=PLrgFLlOQBmlYSTvvlLXk6JqgRGsSFSN5z

Maybe we could ask why you can't show any positivity to the EU Keano? Works both ways.

I know enough about the condition to know how impaired his cognitive function is. I have never said the child is distressed. Physical discomfort is not the same thing as cognitive function. For the child to feel a bond, he needs a certain level cognitive awareness, the ability to judge something as 'familiar'. He can not see or hear. Once the RRM2B gene began to irreversably damage his brain, his ability to recognise touch and smell also became compromised. He is also heavily sedated, necessary to have control over the forced ventilation. And that sedation will not be lifted once the ventilation is removed. It is neccessary to ease what follows. All of those things put together, hopefully help you to understand why it really doesn't matter to him where he passes. It is for the parents bereavement this request was made, understandable of course, but the responsibility of the doctors is for the child first. And that includes having control over the final environment.

After rent arrears reach a minimum of eight weeks, you can serve a notice to seek possession. This will involve going to court where a magistrate will decide to either grant a possession order for eviction, grant a suspended possession order (common for social landlords where arrears have good reason, like benefits delays etc), or decline the possession order. With private property, you are highly likely to be granted a possession order for rent arrears, providing you follow the correct process for doing so. Once you have that order granted, you can instruct bailiffs to evict. It is worth throughout this process, trying to still reach the tenant and see what the problem is. It is also worth speaking to neighbours to see if the tenant has been seen or not. Has your property been abandoned for example? Or has your tenant any issues with the property, or some personal change of circumstance, such as loss of job or benefits? If they are not repsonding to you, then you have little choice but to evict. Some useful links; https://www.gov.uk/evicting-tenants/overview http://www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/advice/how-to-legally-evict-your-tenant

TE44, it is not in Charlie's interests to move him from pillar to post. He is not aware of anything around him. There is no bond. He has no cognitive understanding. Moving him to the parents house is purely for the parents benefit. There is a huge difference between a hospice and his parents home. A hospice is equiped, and has purpose built facilities and premises. Even the journey there will be very risky. Forced ventilation requires precision and constant monitoring. And the language of the parents is increasingly unfair. Today they claimed GOSH were guilty of brutality in not letting Charlie die at their home. Loz is right. The parents seem to now be dragging things out as long as possible. We would not put an animal through this. Every day that they drag this out, his organs fail a little more. The judge now needs to step in and set a date for the ventilation to be removed, and let this poor child go without any more suffering. And the parents need to accept it.

Because taking him anywhere is not that simple - crossed post with Loz but the practical issues are explained there. It also reported that the parents are asking for life support to be continued at their home, for days - so yet again, no agreement from them on withdrawing life support.

Underground parking would be good, as long as it is secure, and free to cosutomers for 2 hours as it is now. It sounds a though the deveoper would like to build as many high rises as it can get away with (hence the coyness on plans). There is one tower block at that hieght nearby (council owned). We shall see what the full plans propose in due course I guess. I also wonder if that number of new retail units can be filled. There is no doubt that Peckham could do with some additional stores though.