Nigello Wrote:  -------------------------------------------------------  > If someone can borrow rather than buy then do so...    Nine times out of ten I would agree, Nigello.  But it sounds like the OP might be public-spirited enough to be considering voluntary litter-picking on a more regular basis, in which case it might be unnecessarily complicated to put out a request on the EDF, or elsewhere, every time.  Thanks for teaching me a new word though - 'midden'!