Huguenot

Well, she may be, but as I said there are no 'scientific' facts in the video at all. It's notable by the absence of 'scientific'. It's an advert targeting the 'right hand' side of the brain, the emotional response, not the 'left hand' calculator. It would be an odd vehicle on which to raise a case to dispute the facts. The Al Gore thing is silly - he's not a scientist, he's a politician who's aware that the average man won't get off their fat arse on the strength of a complex argument. If katie doesn't realise that, then either she's not very bright, or her joky persona's not very bright. Besides which, if you believe the essence of climate change, and then recite a load of bollox cliches that reinforces the delusions of selfish fat twats, you'd have to be an idiot. Hold your counsel and we might get somewhere. katie comments on her 4x4 on another thread, so either she likes to indulge herself, or her stereotype social villain is so ingrained that it's in danger of becoming her reality.

Even if you believe all the bible twaddle, you'd have to argue that it wasn't his birth that saved the world, but what he did afterwards. Regardless, as any fule no, Christmas is mainly derived from the pagan mid-winter festival - conveniently hijacked by early politicians. BUT - you can't knock 'goodwill to all men' etc.

I know, I know... Once I get on my horse etc. silverfox would say the same thing without a whiff of irony, and of the 15,000 regular viewers of this forum I don't know how many of them are so much in agreement with him/her that they'd take katie's wit as affirmation. It drives me nuts that rubbish is just something that's taken away, and pollution is just something that blows away. It is so so difficult to grasp how many people there are in the world, and what a small place it is. *casts around distractedly*

Hold the front page! The Inquisition has nothing on this!

I'll have to check if women can be Muslims. ;-)

Was that a joke katie? I can't quite make out if it was ironic. There are no 'scientific' facts in the video at all. It's notable by the absence of 'scientific'. I'm impressed that you seemed to turn 'scientific' into an insult. 'Scientific' gave us the shoes we walk on, the clothes that keep us warm, the roof over our heads, the roads we drive on, the car we drive in, the food we eat, the beer we drink, the electricity that powers our TV. It would take a considerably stupid prat not to realise that. Considerably. But it hasn't given us, apparently, any common sense. At all. So when we fancy it, we're all quite keen on 'scientific' It is so utterly disappointing to me, that whatever the wit and engagement of our fellow men, we don't seem to grasp the obvious reality that we are shitting on our own doorstep.

There are records of a woman executed for adultery in the US in 1641. That's even more recent... On second thoughts, that probably supports the fanatics argument :)

500 years, not a long time in the greater scheme of things. I've been alive myself for almost 10% of that time. My point was more that it doesn't require religious fanaticism, merely a very peculiar way of looking at things.

I can't quite see through the fog on this one, but wasn't she tried for adultery first, and now she's being tried for murder? 'Fanatical' seems a very religious word, but not so long ago the punishment for adultery in the UK was either having your nose and ears cut off, or being hanged.

Lol! I did get annoyed with myself earlier, since in my conviction I'd substituted pronouns with indecent regularity, to the point where the post could be interpreted a million different ways. Each time I reread it I recognised an alternative interpretation and had to correct it. By the time I'd clarified it, it's another 'edited x times', and I was mildly irritated that this should be interpreted as flip-flopping rather than sorting out loose prose. I reassured myself by deciding that no-one would notice. Now I realise that you bloody do.

Eh? Have we fallen out? I have nothing but respect for your views jalapeno, I'm shamed that I've created such antipathy in you. :'( Set myself on fire I shall! Well, maybe later...

That was a case? In your quest for an aphorism Moriarty, I fear you confuse a lesser mortal such as myself. I may have to resort to a sacrifice as prescribed by your good self: "If you have an alramingly large void in your brain that no trick in the book could cure but reduced to resorting to exceedingly desperate measures to overcome this element, do your self a favour, banish yourself to hell by setting yourself on fire." Buona notte!

Good points David, but I don't think the OP was sophisticated enough to differentiate between viruses and trojans. I also think that saying 'Leap-A was was created in a lab environment' is really relevant, people don't argue about where a virus came from, just that they've got it. Leap-A proves they can be done, and others will follow. Similarly OSX/Inqtana.A may be a 'worm', but I don't think your average consumer can tell the difference, and it's a proof of concept. I think the 'tricked' thing is also a red herring, the Mac's trying to get off on a technicality. Given that people still respond to 419 scams, I don't think the requirement for an 'administrator' password isn't going to be a particularly big hurdle.

I think it was aimed at siousxiesue Everybody sells turtles in China.... shoe shops, newspaper vendors, doctors...

Well, from what I understand he works in mysterious ways. It's entirely possible that a blighter of his ilk deliberately created a housing bubble in order to persuade us that we should have faith in his rescue. He's like one of these chaps who simultaneously pushes you off the platform and grabs you back, announcing 'tell your mum I saved your life' ;-)

Buyers should be reminded that there aren't 'no' viruses for Macs, just very few. The reason there aren't many is because Macs don't have a large market share, so virus writers would prefer to aim at bigger markets. This is a situation that won't stay the same if Macs gain in popularity. Apple don't like people to know that, so they can be surreptitious in trying to sustain the myth: "Two weeks ago, Apple released an update to Mac OS X Snow Leopard (version 10.6.4), but failed to note that it included new antivirus protections that guarded against the HellRTS Trojan. The Trojan is disguised as an iPhoto update to trick Mac users into installing the malware that allows hackers to surreptitiously take remote control of Macs" Which only goes to show that dastardly crims are starting to turn their sights on the Mac

300gsm art paper Axeman, and yours? :))

You're right in one sense DJKQ, but Admin doesn't actaully need access to the PM. The server itself will have a log file covering instructions sent to alter the database (which is required to post or send a PM). Because the PM is time-stamped it wouldn't take a second to locate the relevant instruction, which will contain within it the IP address of the originator. The IP address can be cross referenced against other posters to reveal who else posts from that address. It could be someone else using the same computer, but since strangers rarely create new identities to send hatemail it's most likely to be a frequent poster on that PC. But as I said, hardly worth it.

Will this god save us then? Deep pockets indeed.

I think Admin's probably got better things to do than chase around after a wally.

I didn't think I would Alan. Anyway it has none of your dry wit, and I think Axeman's spelling is better than that ;-)

It would certainly be spectacularly contrived if I registered a new identity yesterday in order to send myself rude messages today so as to react to Axeman's challenge that presumably I saw in my Crystal Ball? I confess I wouldn't have thought of it myself, jalapeno, there must be a veritable Moriarty inside you struggling to get out!

Eh, what? Are you asking me to confirm receipt? Here's the message: Alan Dale From: buncle To: Huguenot Date: 30/09/2010 12:21 You are an oudeous piece of shit. Bully that, @#$%&. And here's buncle: link to profile

Ah, thankyou! I don't think it was appreciated by all. I've just had a volley of abuse on PM from the newly registered and never posted 'buncle', who is notable by his/her inability to spell "oudeous" [sic]

Well indeed, and if he thought that was love it would be really quite revealing!