BrandNewGuy

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I had rather thought that was a significant > trigger for redoing the road layout. Safety. We could do all sorts of things to improve safety, such as banning all cars... But we don't do that, we prioritise spending ? and there is scant evidence that this junction is particularly unsafe.

I didn't say there wasn't *any* danger to cyclists. I was pointing out that the statistics show that there isn't a significant safety issue at that junction. So making it 'safer' is a never-ending argument for never-ending expenditures with rapidly diminishing returns and huge repercussions with regard to congestion, journey times and increased use of rat runs. As a a matter of interest, I'd like to know how much these changes will cost ? and why they weren't carried out the last time the junction was expensively re-engineered just a few years ago. And given the large number of schools in the immediate vicinity, there's no way you can re-engineer the junction to make crossing patrols redundant. They are part of the safety of the junction and always have been.

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: > However, in my experience it's not true that > cyclists only have a problem going straight across > or right from Greendale. For example, if you turn > right out of Townley Rd on a bike (having either > woven your way around the waiting traffic that has > blocked the cycle lane or taken your chance > stopping in the middle of traffic with impatient > drivers in front, beside and behind you) you tend > to get crowded or pushed out to the left, which > causes problems with traffic coming out of > Greendale. Drivers waiting to turn left don't > always seem to notice cyclists in the current > cycle lane who may be going straight on. Many > drivers also sit in the cycle box at junctions. That's pretty much an argument for banning all right turns, isn't it?

James, with respect, when the safety figures are in your favour, you quote them, when they're not you ignore them. You can't have it both ways. And drivers jumping red lights is not relevant to whether or not those lights are desirable.

Yes, by removing the proposed bicycle 'holding area' for nervous cyclists.

The junction is currently perfectly safe for those who walk. And for those who cycle, the one issue of any substance might be crossing from Green Dale and meeting traffic wanting to turn right from Townley Road. And that's it. So let's not exaggerate the 'problems' at a busy junction that has had three 'slight' incidents since 2005.

And it will add to the Melbourne Grive rat run from LL to EDG.

Just received notification from the Council of proposed changes to the junction of ED Grove and Townley Road. This is a junction that was completely redesigned only a few years ago and then resurfaced and re-marked last year. I haven?t got time right now to go into detail, but the main gist seems to be to remove the staggered crossings, to add ?waiting bays? for nervous cyclists and to ban the right turn from Townley Road into East Dulwich Grove (because of the space taken up by said waiting bay). My initial reaction is distinctly negative. The right turn into ED Grove is well-used because alternatives involve quite a detour. And I?m not convinced about the meticulous consideration for nervous cyclists. The dilemma here is that for the remainder of their journeys, these cyclists will be expected to merge with the traffic along with everyone else. Unless you make the whole of the road network as ?cycle friendly? as this, it?s quite likely to be counterproductive. More when I have the time. Here?s the online consultation. Replies needed by December 12th. http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200308/current/3639/townley_road

It's maybe interesting that three of the four winners are not recent arrivals.

The winners RESTAURANT: Franklins CAFE OR COFFEE SHOP: Blue Mountain SHOP: The Cheese Block PUB OR BAR: The Great Exhibition The runners-up RESTAURANT: Toasted CAFE OR COFFEE SHOP: Blackbird Bakery SHOP: Mrs Robinson PUB OR BAR: Crown & Greyhound http://www.timeout.com/london/things-to-do/dulwich-and-east-dulwich-a-locals-guide

Socially networking an incomplerte sentence to describe something that just happened to you and then adding, 'That'. That.

That is unusual! It is possible that it had youngsters nearby ? crows can breed late in the season given readily available food supplies. But more likely is that it mistook your hat for another crow. Which is unusual, as crows are normally more intelligent than that. A robin, for instance, will often mistake a small red object for another robin and attack it, but robins are a bit thick compared to crows ;-)

You might like what they're doing at the Prefab Museum in Catford ? on the big Excalibur Estate of prefabs. Unfortunately they had a small fire there recently, so the museum's currently shut, but it's well worth a look round. Lots of stories, pictures and videos of south London prefabs on the website too: http://www.prefabmuseum.uk/

It was no spelling mistake ? Time Out have repeated the 'Easy D' tag on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/TimeOutLondon?fref=nf So Easy D it is. T-shirts and baseball caps are in production as I write.

"Bowyer Place!" I always hear that as "Know your place!" in a snobbish RP accent to all the oiks heading down Walworth Road.

Lack of punctuation...

People...

I don't think it's explicitly anti-car. I think it's simply an exercise in reducing the amount of parking space so that residents cry out a CPZ across the area ? a nice little earner for the Council with no long-term benefit to the residents. In these times of 'savage cuts', many Council activities are primarily geared up to revenue-raising.

newboots Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This just makes me nostalgic for the days when > Time Out was my most-looked-forward-to publication > of the week :( Or City Limits if you were a donkey-jacket-wearing leftie with a penchant for grim East European cinema...

Playing devil's advocate for a moment: "Bectu general-secretary Gerry Morrissey hailed the deal and said: ?We can see no reason why other cinema chains cannot follow the Curzon lead.? I can see a reason: Friday night adult ticket to see "Mr Turner" Curzon Richmond: ?14.75 Ritzy Brixton: ?13.50 Peckham Plex: ?4.99

... and they're unpaid interns who've been hooked by the lie that, "Oh, it's unbeatable experience for getting into Journalism..."

I'm not sure we are more precious. No-one in or out regards Dulwich Village as East Dulwich. And Thatcher's house in Hambledon Place, SE21, was most definitely not East Dulwich.

thebestnameshavegone Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > BrandNewGuy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It also says that ED might be a little bit edgy > ? > > and that Mrs Thatcher had a house here. Both > > completely untrue. Dreadful piece knocked up in > > about ten minutes. > > The story is that she panic-bought at the height > of the 80s boom and lived there for 'a few days' > before trading up to Belgravia. > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/3335682/Oops-T > heyve-done-it-again.html But that wasn't East Dulwich. It was Dulwich Common, SE21.

It also says that ED might be a little bit edgy ? and that Mrs Thatcher had a house here. Both completely untrue. Dreadful piece knocked up in about ten minutes.

intexasatthe moment Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > i'm just in awe of the work teachers do... > Bloody hard physical work teaching little ones . Whereas the rest of us slouch around all day, barely able to pick up a pencil ;-) > If it were me ,my choice would be to drive . Fine, but that would be your choice. When deciding difficult policy decisions to do with parking, transport, urban lving space etc, your choice doesn't trump those of others. And some decisions might make your choice more difficult to pursue.