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Motorcyclists aren't the problem penguin68 - Anyone living on MG can tell you that some cars and vans will happily speed over the existing cushions very much faster than the 85th percentile quoted figures in the survey with very little deflection to their suspension, particularly larger vehicles - I know I live here and drive down the road, 40MPH + is easily possible. The survey fails to point out that it is this minority of drivers the residents are concerned about since it seems overly focussed on average 85th percentile speeds. MG is a 'rat run' and I cannot understand why there are 28 pages of vitriol against residents wanting full width speed humps, which definitely slow vehicles down. At the end of the day its a bit of raised tarmac - how hard can that be for folks to put up with. Can someone please change the name of this thread because the 'Closure of Melbourne Grove to though traffic' option was discussed for approximately 2 seconds and discounted by everyone including MGTA! On second thoughts - I really wouldn't want to spoil your fun though.

The ?150k price tag is a premium cost which buys you in to a ?33k p/a FRI lease. ie you does your own refurb, maintainence and insurance. Still not bad considering the former HSBC on LL is on at ?100 grand a year... gulp. (Clearly negotiable)

rch Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So, I suspect that the main recommendation is > going to be to put in extended double yellow lines > at all the junctions and maybe build outs to keep > the traffic back and make pedestrian crossing > easier at the jcts with Ashbourne and > Chesterfield. Building out the corners of > Chesterfield will help to control the number of > lorries turning from Melbourne into Chesterfield > as well. > > This will probably create more parking problems, > but it will actually solve the issues that people > are complaining about, whereas speedhumps and a > barrier won't make a blind bit of difference > (except that a barrier will displace loads of > local traffic). Of course it won't stop the speeding issues, are you mad. The existing speed cushions are as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking competition. > Ironically, I recently witnessed another accident > on the bend of Melbourne and Colwell just a couple > weeks ago... as usual, it was caused by sheer bad > driving by a local resident, not speeding or > volume, despite what people claim. Not sure whats ironic about that, other than it supports the argument for MG traffic calming measures. > > I hate to say it, but I don't think there's much > that can be done to stop local residents from > driving like idiots... Full width speed humps... DOH!

I'd agree with pretty much everything you say up to a point, and am also aware you are referring to my post about the Herne Tavern this weekend. As someone who runs a small business I indeed know that success is built upon reputation, customer service and quality of product/service offered. However when one has attempted to speak to the business owner and calmly voice one's dissatifaction and are then aggressively shouted down and told rudely that you are wrong it leaves a particularly bitter taste in the mouth. And you may find yourself posting on this forum to warn others not to fall in to the same trap. For the record I've lived in East Dulwich for 17 years and never felt strongly enough to post on this forum about anything else, it just so happened that this was a particularly unpleasant experience that I, my friends and our children endured.

Oh dear me Grok, you are a very disillusioned person. I assume you live on MB and have young children? There is FYI no campaign outright for a barrier, simply a reduction in rat-running and speeding. If any of you could be bothered to communicate in a civil manner with those of us who've instigated the campaign you may begin to understand that we don't want a solution which will inconvenience surrounding areas, hence why many hours of doorstepping has been undertaken. Guys, it's not rocket science!