JoeLeg

I've just seen it; it's a massive leak.

Not an objective analysis, or just not one that you want to hear?

Thames Water confirm burst pipe on Overhill. Great day for it...

It's nothing but the council pre-emptively trying to spread the blame. Sickening.

Is the DUP really angling for a soft Brexit? You probably know more about the situation on the ground in N Ireland than me, but Foster and her lot don't seem that 'soft' to me.

Ah, it's from the Metro. Which is owned by the Daily Mail. It reads like an opportunity for the council leader to try and blame the victims for their own demise. Of course they wanted hot water etc. Why on earth were sprinklers considered optional?! Fire safety isn't something to be designed by committee, even if it seems insignificant next to the decision to use that cladding. That whole article sounds like the most appalling attempt by the council to try and deflect blame away from their own penny-pinching.

uncleglen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I heard sprinkler systems were offered and the > tenants turned them down due to the disruption it > would cause.... Nice bit of victim-blaming there. Got a source for that?

There's no doubt someone will go to jail. At least 58 people are dead because they wanted to save (if I have it correct) about ?5,000 on the cladding. The PM has gotten herself personally involved in an effort to appear less of an android, and there's widespread anger in the community. Someone is going to jail. Whether it's the right person/people, is another question entirely. Scapegoats will do them nicely if they can't/won't/don't want to pin the blame on the actually guilty party.

Good point. Fight fire with fire; I like it.

Well, you live in an area where noisy children are the norm. You say you were abused when you raised the issue but telling people their kids are too loud is never going to go down well (then again you have a strident opinion on six year olds riding bikes near you so I'm wondering if this is a pattern). Bluntly if your neighbours are reasonable people then approving them reasonably should yield results. If not then either they aren't being reasonable, or you aren't, or both. And thus I refer the honourable poster to my earlier reply.

Move house.

Does anyone know who the landlord(s) up and down Lordship Lane are? They're plainly going for as much rent as they can get (which is of course their prerogative, not looking for an argument about the usual things), I'd just be interested to know if it's individuals, or one big landowner etc, and hoping someone else already has the answer?

"And at least Lewis doesn?t hide behind a username, and is prepared to defend what he believes publicly." What Lewis believes is pretty contemptible. He believes in intimidating, threatening, lying and harassing. The idea that because he uses his real name he is somehow operating on a higher plane of morality would be viable if he didn't behave like a playground bully. I do not agree with the idea that if you use your real name it allows you to engage in such behaviour. Ad hominem attacks and strawman arguments are his preferred techniques. Blanche, you seem more in favour of passive-agressive manipulation of others beliefs. Both of you are laughable.

All that in your favour and yet you still lost? I'm flabbergasted!

Like Southwark Council care enough about SSW to bother...Lewis seems to have a warped view of how the internet works. I'm going to guess (could be wrong) that it wasn't a resounding victory to SSW, else Lewis/Blanche would have mentioned it. Or maybe they won and they're still drunk.

As Nick Clegg said, in politics you live by the sword and die by the sword. (Now he was using it as a metaphor, but personally I think it would make committee meetings and PMQ's much more entertaining). I don't feel sorry for her. She knew what she was getting into.

So, Blanche, what will you do if minority religious groups still want to be buried within the borough?

> > Anyway, you should be happy she called the > election - it seems to have kiboshed the hard > Brexit we were careering towards. And with any > luck and a good wind, it might even undo it > completely. It may yet - inadvertently, of course > - save us a lot of money! I'd love to believe this, but May is just as much at the mercy of the hardcore eurosceptics in her party as the remainers such as Davidson. She has Johnson, Davis and Gove in her cabinet, and she knows if she veers too far from the harder end of the negotiations she will be scuppered by those Eurosceptic backbenchers. I remain to be convinced that Brexit will soften.

"Is there anyone on this forum who thinks it is okay for Southwark to discriminate against any resident because of their religion?" Why don't you just fuck off with your retarded attempts at these strawman arguments? You know no one thinks that, but you're the kind of person who says 'if you aren't with me then you must be against me!'. Show me evidence that non-Christian religious groups have made representations to Southwark. Go on, I'm waiting...

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-book-of-jeremy-corbyn?mbid=social_facebook_paid_cm_corbynsbook Probably about as valid an analysis as any right now...

The problem is a lot of the "yoof" support for Labour comes from a loathing of the Tories as much as anything else. I disagree with a lot of Tory policy (not all of it), but my reasons for not voting Tory are very different to those half a lifetime ago. I don't hate the Tories, or think they're out to screw the working man, I just disagree with certain views they hold. Like many people I speak to these days, I feel we're slowly leaving the days of ideology based on 'left' and 'right', and I wonder if the emergence of parties like UKIP isn't a taste of things to come, as in we may see more, smaller political groups emerge, each speaking to various niches. Anyway, I feel the Tory party could do a lot more to convince the youth vote that they aren't out to get them. It seems to me that they've pretty much abandoned that ground to Labour, which I think is silly.

I nearly fired someone yesterday because he told me he "tossed a coin" to decide whether to vote Labour or spoil his ballot paper. It was his first election and he displays all the characteristics Steveo mentions. A number of other people of similar age work here as well, and fortunately none of them are as idiotic. Obviously I didn't actually fire him (he voted Labour, not that I care how he voted, only that he voted), but it made me really angry. I can handle the overly idealistic nature of youth - that was me once, and I think it's their right to see the world how they think it should be, before life knocks seven bells out of them. But thinking that a spoilt ballot paper is a political process is just retarded. Like Rendell, I adhere to Churchill on this. It's flawed, but better than the alternatives.

That is some massive cognitive dissonance you have going on Blanche. Really amusing, also quite sad.

I haven't purchased anything that wasn't a brand name and in a secure form, such as a tin of Heinz beans or some such, from Co Op in a long time, for all the reasons listed above (M+S does it all better, not that I shop there much either), but even so I'm amazed/shocked at the above. How they didn't just pull it all and bin it is beyond me. On the thankfully very rare occasions that I've had a fridge go down overnight at work, whatever the cause, anything classified as medium or high risk goes straight in the bin. You can't put a price on the risk. Really shocking.

You have put up a petition that only tells one (very biased) side of the story. You claim to speak for what all of Southwark needs, but you will not countenance those who disagree. Your various arguments have over time been debunked. There is no way you can claim that 'most local residents' support you. All you can claim is that 'most local residents' who have only heard your (very biased) side of the story agree with you. Your strawman arguments about any petition I might have done demonstrate your intellectual dishonesty. This is not a zero-sum game. You happily associated with UKIP on social media. This too speaks volumes about you. (Edited for clarity...)