Mick Mac

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow Mick, I'm impressed. I wish I had the power to > speak for a whole bunch of people, and to know > their thoughts. You're some kind of superhero. Thanks Keef.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Pope, as a citizen of Europe and the leader of > a religion with many adherents in the UK, is of > course free to enter and tour our country. > > * However, as well as a religious leader, the Pope > is a head of state and the state and organisation > of which he is head has been responsible for: > > 1. opposing the distribution of condoms and so > increasing large families in poor countries and > the spread of AIDS > > 2. promoting segregated education > > 3. denying abortion to even the most vulnerable > women > > 4. opposing equal rights for lesbians, gay, > bisexual and transgender people > > 5. failing to address the many cases of abuse of > children within its own organisation. > > 6. rehabilitating the holocaust denier bishop > Richard Williamson and the appeaser of Hitler, the > war-time Pope, Pius XII. > > * The state of which the Pope is the head has also > resisted signing many major human rights treaties > and has formed its own treaties (?concordats?) > with many states which negatively affect the human > rights of citizens of those states. > > * As a head of state, the Pope is an unsuitable > guest of the UK government and should not be > accorded the honour and recognition of a state > visit to our country I agree. 100%.

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Those affected by the issue will not thank people > for making a joke out of it. > > Says who? --- ME They may be all too pleased about jokes > that show up their abusers for what they are. I > may be wrong of course, ------------ YEP

I understand the real issue - you on the other hand seem inconsistent.

Its a very serious issue and I don't think its an issue to make light of through "silly" or even disturbing pictures. Those affected by the issue will not thank people for making a joke out of it. You should make up your mind where you stand.

Went a bit OTT - apologies to MP, had been for a leaving lunch yesterday afternoon.....Still not comfortable with the picture though.

I was talking about the poster, not the artist....

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm guessing it'll probably be removed, but for > the record it's in Los Angeles. > It actually features in a scene in Six Feet Under > as it happens, and the director's commentary said > they spotted it during filming a scene there. In that case its an accidental image ? Intentionally misrepresented ?

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mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 1) I think that was rather my point wasn't it. > 2) really when did they invade? > 1) No - You were making the point that England was comfortable with the EU alligience. 2) French - 1066 Germans - intention....??

Sorry - not with you. 1) Pictures of child abuse, in whatever form, should not be allowed on this forum (my opinion only). 2) - I certainly do not endorse the Pope's visit. 3) - Of course not - and the administrators have to my knowledge always upheld a good reputation and would generally prevent children accidently seeing inappropriate images.

Eh - edcam Because Men abuse children does not make it acceptable to be "shown" on a forum. What other abuse would you think should be ok to be shown here ?

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a genuine stained glass window, From where? Just because its a window does not mean its acceptable for a "family forum" - if it were a picture or photo it would not be allowed. Can you say where I can see this window?

mockney piers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'd say we're pretty comfortable as part of the > alliance called the European Union. We have common > interests and culture, visit each others countries > in our hundreds of millions and are each others > foremost trading partners. Plus avoiding European > rivalry and conflagration is far and away our > primary security issue. > Our last two cost us an empire, all our money and > a million and a half dead, all other security > concerns pale into insignificance against this; > let's not risk another huh? > > The transatlantic alliance was a hedge against the > catastrophic failure of the European project as > much as it was a safeguard against communism. With > both of these gone I can see many reasons why we > should remain close to them, culturally and in > trade but i can't see that we've benefited a great > deal strategically other than involvement in some > expensive brush fire wars we couldnt afford and > that it has helped us to have an inflated, > misguided and ultimately expensive sense of our > own importance in the scheme of things, money much > better spending on our increasingly broken society > rather than expensive floaty and flyey things as > well as things that make REALLY big bangs that > we'll never use and that someone else ultimately > controls anyway. Taking that last one into account > freakily the French have got it rather better than > us, err taking Vietnam out of the equation, and > Algeria and Rwanda and ... Ok strike that. 1) The French have made their own mistakes. 2) But I don't agree that we are "comfortable" with the alliance with the european union - I think we are hedging our bets there - we have historically been at war with the French and the Germans, both of whom have invaded - the comfort of the alligence with the US is that it is comforting in that there is no risk of invasion, we suit each other and have done for some time.

The 3 pictures from Jah/Brendan/MP .... I'm sorry but I thought they were out of order. As a former Catholic, they made me feel a bit sick. Awful to think of children being abused, but for some reason seeing these pictures, really impacted. Really bad, especially the MP one. Terrible.

Alan Dale Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > He didn't stop it. > > > More importantly- where in ED would be the best > location for a Barclaysbike dock? 218 Frien Road would be good.

That went over my head MP. I'm sure its clear to someone. Oh yes - I just got it - Its the girls in the barber post .... ? Maybe I should pass on the curry night.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I liked the Irish one about poppies - how odd Not odd at all - its a subject of regular debate. "Why do the Irish wear Orange"...that one was surprising.

Michael Palaeologus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi All - sorry been away moving Mother, back now. > > Re date for October, dont mind really, mid > October? I am on hols in October, but could do > Monday 11th - hows that? Have always wanted to make a curry night MP - so i have 11th in my diary. Look forward to it, but am just a possible until nearer the time. thanks.

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KalamityKel Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I don't want to get old! ::o > > As Bob Monkhouse said, "Growing old is compulsory. > Growing up isn't". Bob Monkhouse also said: "When I told them I wanted to be a comedian, they laughed at me. They're not laughing now....."

Are you shouting?

RosieH Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes yes yes - Tillie, I'm surprised at you. > > The man is a bigoted @#$%&, plain and simple. > Actually, yes, he is also incredibly plain and > rather simple. In truth - he is a little bit sexist - so Rosie does not like him.

waynetta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dyslexics. Try deliberately spelling words > wrongly. This way at least you have a chance of > spelling some of them correctly. Very good. Made me taugh.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Any score predictions for MU v Rangers RD? > > Rangers are surprisingly hard to beat. :( As i say suprisingly hard to beat. What champions league newcomer said 4-0. How insulting. Great performance by rangers. They looked pretty comfortable to me. Weir and papac were superb in defence. Edu excellent in midfield.

will be different this season pgc. You wait. The bhoys are back. 4 wins no goals conceded.