Mick Mac

She should have kept her maiden name. Puts me right off.

Is the school going to send texts communicating this to parents? I understand they have this facility. Thanks.

Its just a little dig at Sandbanks Harry. :) What one club paid and what another received did not always tally. I'm sure he is completely legit these days tho.

Word ?

Spurs actually paid ?18m and Madrid only received ?8. Where did the other ?10m go?

Oh - yes - forgot about that one - thought that post was a bit strong! For me its just a bit on idle banter, if I'm honest.

Its not a hullabaloo - its just a thread. I don't think its appropriate to approach recent patients. Obvioulsy most people seem to think that this is ok. I'm happy to accept I'm in the minority on that. Keef - its not so much to do with patient confidential address records, just the policy of approaching former patients that I see as wrong. On the funding point - I think the Government is best placed to decide how much money the NHS needs and what we should pay for it. We fund it through taxes. I appreciate this is not voluntary. People may want to give more money to the NHS. The existence of the charity is well known, and I think it should be marketed openly, rather than being specifically directed to former patients (although I'm sure this is only one of many methods).

All things legal are not correct, surely Keef. Some are inappropriate.

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Agree completely with Sean on this. > > Look, we live in an age where you can go on the > internet, and get the home address of anyone you > want. Who @#$%& cares? Its whether its the correct policy, or not, to approach patients for cash donations.

Ok - I'll reword "poorly targeted" as "a poor decision to target former patients".

i think you are missing the point mycroft. Kings should not be using patient databases for non medical purposes. That is as far as it goes really. My personal view on fundraising is that the NHS will never have all the money it wants. Thats a different debate.

Yes - It says Wednesday in the bottom right hand corner of my screen. But I'm sure when I got up this morning it was Tuesday. I'm confused. I'd better go to bed - I wonder what day it will be when I wake up.

cate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, that was Sean. I'm not sure it was Sean. But don't quote me on that.

Only dry on Mondays. That's the rule.

Is it your birthday Brum? Well done - have a good one.

I know who both of you are.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So the hospital's Chief Executive has used the > patients address records, in the hope of > benefitting the charity? I disassociate myself from some more strongly worded posts on this thread, but I would still like to think that patient address records were not being used for charitable requests, either directly by the charity (not the case) or indirectly via the Chief Exec (seems to be the case). This is because I have been fortunate enough to have benefitted greatly from the professionalism of King's over recent years. However, I think often people who have been treated by the NHS are potentially vulnerable to requests for funds. If the letters are indeed being sent to former patients then some who receive the letters may read an implication between the lines: "You have received good treatment form your local hospital, would you like now to pay a bit more for that treatment and the treatment of others" And therefore you may feel a little guilty, in not giving. However - those receiving NHS treatment may in general be the more vulnerable in society - because those who have suffered life threatening conditions are often feeling very weak and insecure. Those who support the sending of these letters should ask themselves whether this practice was well thought through. But whilst I agree with many that it was well intentioned, it was poorly targeted.

But some people don't want to receive such correspondence and have asked how it came about. That's what the discussion is about now.

So the hospital's Chief Executive has used the patients address records, in the hope of benefitting the charity?

I don't know how Declan ended up being implicated in all of this.

Vegetarian cooking is not claiming to be gastronomy Huguenot - someone is on the contrary saying that it cannot be included as gastronomy (ie that they are contrary terms)

World English Dictionary gastronomy (ɡ?sˈtrɒnəmɪ) ? n 1. the art of good eating 2. the type of cookery of a particular region: the gastronomy of Provence [C19: from French gastronomie, from Greek gastronomia, from gastēr stomach; see -nomy ] Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition 2009 ? William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 ? HarperCollins The art of good eating would surely be referencing the culinary ablity of the chef and the personal appreciation of the diner and would not be deemed to refer to specific types of cuisine, being vegetarian or meat. The fact that over the centuries the top cuisine has been seen to be meat related (French led maybe) does not pevent a culinary expertise of the same level being achieved in relation to vegetarian dishes and as people have pointed out some countries have achieved high level of gastronomic delights with vegetarian dishes alongside meat dishes. I have never before thought of the word as implying a reference to any specific type of food or to the exclusion of any particular type of food.

Joined up. Look out Declan.

Jack Wilshere arrested....sky news. No details.

Top 50 cheap eats in yesterdays Independent. Independent - Cheap Eats - Gowlett