LadyDeliah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Being in the left of left turning vehicles is also > a result of idiot planners putting cycle lanes in > the left of the traffic, without a barrier or > cycle friendly light phasing. Follow the cycle > path, get mown down, go from the left to the right > at junctions and be accused of weaving in and out > of the traffic. > > It's badly planned roads and inadequate laws to > blame, not victims' behaviour, brought about > through systemic flaws. This is where you kind of lose me, cyclists as all road users need to take responsibility for their own actions. I cycle but my daily commute is by motorcycle and I will never, ever, go up the inside of an artic at a junction regardless of road markings or how any vehicle is indicating.