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uplandrd2020

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  1. atrain82 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It?s interesting that people tend to make a free > speech defence on the assumption they are an > important dissenting voice. > > Rarely do people acknowledge that they may just be > an idiot. > > As is the case here. I think the idiots are the people who believe what they are fed on the TV without doing some checks for themselves, I bet you think that Phizer and others care for us :)
  2. alice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > uplandrd2020 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > alice Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > you have to die within 28 days of catching > > covid > > > for it to be called a covid death. > > > > > > ps ive reported this thread too. > > Yes, they say that every hight on the News, it > > does not mean they died of Covid it means they > > died with Covid. > > Someone terminally ill with another disease in > a > > hospice who also has Covid is counted as dying > > with Covid > > It's a real fact so not sure what you've > reported > > this for. > > I reported this because you wrote that being 'hit > by a bus' months after covid would qualify as a > covid death. increasing our sad total further. I did not say that, it was written in the Guardian article that I linked to. This Public Health emergency has changed our lives, all im saying is are we sure the numbers are correct.
  3. alice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > you have to die within 28 days of catching covid > for it to be called a covid death. > > ps ive reported this thread too. Yes, they say that every hight on the News, it does not mean they died of Covid it means they died with Covid. Someone terminally ill with another disease in a hospice who also has Covid is counted as dying with Covid It's a real fact so not sure what you've reported this for.
  4. fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > uplandrd2020 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It is listed as what it contains, surely it > should > > say how it is made instead, either way, some > > people may object to taking something made in > this > > way > > Thank you for modifying your original post, and no > longer claiming the virus contains cells from > chimpanzees and human fetuses. > > Yes I am sure you are right, some people may > object to potentially millions of lives being > saved using this technology. Some people object to > all sorts of things. Some people are idiots. You are right about potentially millions as we don't have an accurate count of deaths, did they die of covid or with covid? A Department of Health and Social Care source summed this up as: ?You could have been tested positive in February, have no symptoms, then be hit by a bus in July and you?d be recorded as a Covid death.? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/21/analysis-why-englands-covid-19-death-toll-is-wrong-but-not-by-much
  5. If it is so Safe and effective, why is it necessary for UK Gov to give the Pharma companies legal indemnity https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-pfizer-vaccine-legal-indemnity-safety-ministers-b1765124.html JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Don't forget Smallpox was beaten by a cow virus - > Cowpox. > > "How the Oxford COVID-19 vaccine works > The ChAdOx1 vaccine is a chimpanzee adenovirus > vaccine vector. This is a harmless, weakened > adenovirus that usually causes the common cold in > chimpanzees. ChAdOx1 was chosen as the most > suitable vaccine technology for a SARS-CoV-2 > vaccine as it has been shown to generate a strong > immune response from one dose in other vaccines. > It has been genetically changed so that it is > impossible for it to grow in humans. This also > makes it safer to give to children, the elderly > and anyone with a pre-existing condition such as > diabetes. Chimpanzee adenoviral vectors are a very > well-studied vaccine type, having been used safely > in thousands of subjects." > > https://www.research.ox.ac.uk/Article/2020-07-19-t > he-oxford-covid-19-vaccine
  6. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca Section 6 listed as what it contains, surely it should say how it is made instead, either way, some people may object to taking something made in this way. What COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca contains One dose (0.5 ml) contains: COVID 19 Vaccine (ChAdOx1-S* recombinant) 5 ? 10^10 viral particles *Recombinant, replication-deficient chimpanzee adenovirus vector encoding the SARS CoV 2 Spike glycoprotein. Produced in genetically modified human embryonic kidney (HEK) 293 cells.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEK_293_cells This product contains genetically modified organisms (GMOs). fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > uplandrd2020 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > 2 sensible factual posts I made about vaccine > > safety earlier have been removed, it is so > strange > > that no discussion about Vaccine Safety is > > allowed. We have free speech on most other > > topics, why can't we discuss this? > > I just replied to one of your posts. It is not > factual, it contains completely incorrect > information. > > I think it should be removed. > > This forum is carefully moderated. It is not a > haven of "free speech". Try Parler instead.
  7. fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Chimpanzee adenovirus vector" does not mean > "Chimpanzee cells". > > And a cell line originating from a single aborted > fetus (many years ago) does not mean that your > vaccine contains bits of unborn baby. > > I wonder if admin could remove this thread, > perhaps? It is listed as what it contains, surely it should say how it is made instead, either way, some people may object to taking something made in this way
  8. 2 sensible factual posts I made about vaccine safety earlier have been removed, it is so strange that no discussion about Vaccine Safety is allowed. We have free speech on most other topics, why can't we discuss this?
  9. Peckhampam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > to Uplandrd2020 > > For adverse re-action read mild side effects. A > sore arm and a headache would seem more than > acceptable. > "Doesn't stop you from catching the virus" Could > you quote your proofs. Most sites say Covid vaccine just reduces Symptoms, https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2020/12/covid-19-vaccines-transmission.html
  10. ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've just been looking at > https://bepartofresearch.nihr.ac.uk/vaccine-studie > s/approved-vaccine-studies/ for details of the > research project looking at the effects of > combining the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines. > They're currently looking for volunteer subjects > age 50 or over. The London centres involved are > UCH and St Georges, Tooting. They want people who > haven't had any dose at all yet. They'll be > giving two doses, of either the same or different > vaccines, at an interval of 4 or 12 weeks. Both > those choices will be made randomly, and without > informing the subjects of the vaccines used until > the end of the study, which lasts a year. More at > the above link. A vaccine that hasn't been long term tested, One that hasn't been tested against allergies, One that hasn't been tested in pregnant women? One That doesn't stop you from catching the virus? One that doesn't stop you from transmitting the virus? I wonder why anybody would ever think it may actually be a waste of time or even dangerous to those who take it ? Only 45000 Adverse reactions reported so far in the UK so should be fine https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions
  11. mary123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Group of adults standing and dancing around a > stereo on the hill, been there for bout an hour, > do they know something I do not know about social > distancing or the pandemic?? Maybe they know that the Death count from Covid is vastly exaggerated, dying with Covid is not the same as dying of Covid. If you are in a Hospice dying of cancer but have covid its counted as a Covid death, all the while Flu, Heart attack and Stroke death numbers are drastically down for the last year https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-uk-overestimates-coronavirus-death-toll.html and 80% of infections have very mild flu-like symptoms
  12. Removed for linking to old articles, incorrect facts about Covid etc. Please stop it. Admin
  13. Yes I emailed their customer service department, no response at all. They have so many branches now I don?t think they care.
  14. wolis Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My wife also complains of the smell. We think it > is of fried onions I'm not sure they have fried onions on the menu, It's a strange smell, never smelt it anywhere else. Good to hear I'm not alone. Popped in to buy pumpernickel today and need to wash my hair before bed...
  15. Love the bread and pastries but even if I run in quickly for bread you need to wash all clothes and hair as they must have no extraction, there is a strong unpleasant smell that lingers in clothes. I have not had this in any of the other Gails, does anyone else find this annoying
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