Mick - You make me laugh. Even when I wasn't here every reference you made to Liverpool came with a snipe at Rafa and then mentioned me. You're obsessed! I don't feel victimised or bullied, just frustrated at having to constantly justify my support to people who's opinons (in my opinion) are quite frankly laughable. Sandperson Keane for Liverpool 1. Season 08/09 began for us when Keane left, 33 games had been played. 2. Out of those 33 games, Keane started 23, came on as a sub in 5 and was left on the bench for 5. 3. In the 28 games Keane was involved in, he scored 7 times. 5 in the league and 2 in europe. What has he done since leaving us? Sweet FA. He was made club captain when he went back to Spurs but yet he has probably played less since going back to Spurs than he did do with us. And has now been packed off to Celtic because he seems surplus to requirements at Spurs. Has Harry has as much abuse as Rafa over the treatment of Keane? Aquilani We paid ?5 million for him last summer. The rest of his fee is based on installments and appearances. Has it not occurred to anyone that Rafa isn't allowed to play him as it means we'll owe Roma more cash. There is always a bigger picture.