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Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Southwark is even more red than it was > before...... And will hopefully become more green :)

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > HP > The article talks about joined services between 2 > councils to save money by not duplicating staff > > Makes perfect sense as most council office workers > should easily be able to deal with a larger case > load without much of an issue > > It's how many private sector companies work when > they merge resources. Yes Spartacus - as I said above some is joining up between councils BUT loss of a lot of service too.

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hpsaucey Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Cyclemonkey Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > There is a reason why Wandsworth has very low > > > Council tax - the services aee minimal and > you > > pay > > > extra for everything. > > > > > > THIS! Know from past experience. Wouldn't want > to > > go back there. > > HP > > Out of interest what do they have to pay for in > Wandsworth that we don't in Southwark? We seem to > be paying for more and more (as extras) whilst > also paying more for our council tax. This on children's services is pretty representative of their approach. Some joining up of service provision with other councils BUT mainly just cuts. https://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/17517855.wandsworth-council-cut-600-staff-eight-years-childrens-services-hardest-hit/ HP

Anyone know if there's any goosey update? HP

Cyclemonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There is a reason why Wandsworth has very low > Council tax - the services aee minimal and you pay > extra for everything. THIS! Know from past experience. Wouldn't want to go back there. HP

TWB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hpsaucey Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Bic Basher Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > hpsaucey Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > > TWB Wrote: > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > Supporting women's rights isn't > > transphobic. > > > > > > > > 👍👍👍 > > > > > > > > > But do these supposed 'women's rights' also > > > include trans women? I doubt it. > > > > 'Supposed 'women's rights''! Wowser! lol. > > > > HP > > > Wasn't even worthy of a response at that point. Yes - you're right, it wasn't. HP

Bic Basher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > hpsaucey Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > TWB Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Supporting women's rights isn't transphobic. > > > > 👍👍👍 > > > But do these supposed 'women's rights' also > include trans women? I doubt it. 'Supposed 'women's rights''! Wowser! lol. HP

TWB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Supporting women's rights isn't transphobic. 👍👍👍

We've been here before with the previous iteration relying on water being able to flow uphill.Shame lesson wasn't learnt from that one. Really sad to see this mass of concrete with non-working water feature and dead/ dying planting 😢

verds Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was walking through the village yesterday > (around 3.30pm, Sat 30th) and a bride and groom > came out of the bit near the gallery in a tuktuk. > This is really random, but my friend took a pic on > his phone and when we looked at it last night we > realised it was so beautiful and happy. Would love > to get it to the couple. The bride had long, brown > hair and the groom was in a military uniform. I > know it?s a long shot, but if you know them give > me a shout! What a lovely thing to do! Hope you track them down. HP

first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- 'They were/are but so are many other breeds. The > key point is that the owner should not have had > the dog off lead in that area.' Agree - should be no dogs off lead in that area. I'm sure there are some signs but don't know how obvious. HP

TRACYGAGE Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone have an update please If I'm passing the warden's office later I'll see if they know anything. Unless there's already been an update. Weimaraner's were bred for hunting weren't they? HP

What the fudge was a dog doing off lead near there? And where was the owner? Poor goose/goslings Hoping for a posirive update on then. HP

Anyone but the Tories here too. HP

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Threatening to call an ambulance could be a > masterstroke by the police. XR are > anti-establishment and want to be arrested and > want to make it as difficult as possible for the > police and court system to process them. > > I can't imagine XR want to be a burden on the NHS > and I reckon if you get taken to hospital enough > times for sitting in a road they could probably > section you which would be a gar more effective > way of stopping repeat offenders! > > Also I can't imagine bragging about going to > hospital and being sectioned holds the same cache > at the Peckham Rye camp as being arrested... Wow lol. Have you had too much wacky baccy?? HP

joom Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Please read this! > > https://medium.com/extinction-rebellion/the-real-p > roblem-of-hypocrisy-for-extinction-rebellion-4a685 > 1dcdeb7 Thanks for posting. A good read! HP

legalalien Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree with firstmate that the current crisis is > the likeliest way of effecting behaviour change, > I?m in ?back to the 70s? mode myself. I?m not > planning to get a pet after the existing one, and > fortunately have one child so no issues there! Thirded re back to the 70s mode. The Good Life huh. Have 3 cats - but all street strays I've rescued, neutered etc. 2 teenagers - can't really ditch them. Never had a car. Haven't flown (except once for work) since 2004. A mix of personal ethos and not being well off in my case. HP

Assume ditching pets was meant to be a trite comment. Certainly will piss off all the rescues who work so hard to pick up the pieces when people really do ditch their pets/ don't neuter them and then have unwanted litters. HP

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Agreed - lots of people doing lots of tweaks can > help but very few think further. Lots of children, > a pet or two, all kinds of consumption - this is > the excess that lots of folk won?t budge on, even > though rejecting them en masse would do more than > reusing plastic bags and recycling, etc. Agree - there's plenty we can all do individually and at a community level. And plenty of local/ small projects and initiatives that can show those in power some real solutions. But without real structural change around energy supply and demand and living more sustainably in general- which requires governmental, business, cultural and international change - I think we're going to hell on a handcart. (Happy Saturday all!) HP

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But HP it is an important part of the story that > public opinion swung in their favour and they > actually achieved their aims when they focussed on > supporting the country's war efforts rather than a > campaign of disruption. One wonders when the penny > might drop for XR that disruption is not actually > getting them anywhere.... > . Rockets - re: women gaining the vote - you stick to that one particular facet of your very narrow analysis all you want... I don't suppose anything I or other say would change your mind. HP (PhD in the social history of crime and protest)

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Didn't the suffragettes suspend disruption > activities during the First World War and put > their efforts towards aiding the war effort and > that was the thing that actually swung public > opinion in their favour and then got them the > political leverage for change? > Whilst some historians have argued that it is a VERY partial view of the story. There are plenty of historical analyses that give a far more rounded picture of the various influences that worked both for and against women getting the vote over a period of time from the late C19th onwards and on the impact of social protest in general. HP

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes but some of us can acknowledge the need for > action against the existential threat to our > species without the need to go and break the law, > cause massive disruption to innocent people or > superglue ourselves to electric trains - I think > that's called intellectual evolution! ;-) And are those acknowledging the need acting enough/ pressuring the government enough? Re: ' I think that's called intellectual evolution' - ironically the book I linked to above may suggest otherwise. HP

Sue's right - we're contemplating an existential threat as a species. Some people including some EDFers will continue along the 'Don't Look Up' path, This book's interesting for anyone wondering about humanity's difficulty facing up to the threat: https://southwark.spydus.co.uk/cgi-bin/spydus.exe/FULL/WPAC/BIBENQ/437740099/71467036,1 HP

Rockets wrote: > So whilst a lot on here say...yes I will be > welcoming them...would they say the same if it was > a group they did not agree with? I suspect not. Re: this. Probably depends how the group behaves no? Personally, I'm keeping an open mind, as I would do for any group doing the same whether or not I agree with their mission. HP

Agree with their aims so I'll be taking them up on their (poster) offer and going along to find out more... HP