Quia Differt

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry, washing my hair. Thank You for letting me down gently RPC. btw: Would you mind awfully if I plagirised that " sense of that English may not be your first language. ? " I can imagine you writing that with a sweet smile which is a happy note to end on...:)

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > QD, something I've wondered about since your first > posts in your new name is that there's a sense > that English may not be your first language. I'm > asking from genuine interest as I realise it might > make a difference to how people interpret your > comments. Beautiful. I like that RPC. :) You have got me thinking RPC. Who knows on a different forum on a different subject at a different time who knows where our banter could have taken us and what it might have lead to ? Anyway your pesky brother rendel has finally gone so what you doing on the forum later ? Could you teach me to write and talk proper has I do strugle wiv me engleesch sumtimes ?

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bored with your drivel now, there's a limit to how > interesting it is watching someone make a fool of > himself before it all just becomes rather > pathetic. You've amply demonstrated what sort of > person you are, I shall not be responding to any > more of your leaden "wit" nor your spoon-sharp > intellectual points. Farewell, skin crawling > casual-racist misogynist. I asked you at 2.44 not to acknowledge me so blame yourself and your myriad of replies since then. Farewell O , what's the word rendel for someone who is incredibly rude and offensive, acts as a Grammar and Verbal Nazi, tries a smearing campaign and fails, then in desperation blatantly lies and then,pitifully, refuses 3 times to answer why he lied and now wants to disappear over the horizon with his tail between his legs ? I do APOLOGISE though for not resorting to smearing or lying or name-calling or being rude or being ofensive ( well not too much ) but just remember to instil into your pupils your Mantra that : 1/ No-one should be given a second chance 2/ That they should automatically believe someone's opinion about someone from comments made years ago that they have not seen themselves without seeing any evidence 3/ That at all times they should attempt to stifle debate if someone has a different opinion 4/ Re-assure them if all else fails try to smear them and get them to enlist others to do the same 5/ Failing that just get them to lie through their teeth 6/ When called out on that get them to continually ignore the accusation 7/ Then if and when, sadly, the battle is lost get them to retreat over the horizon not to re-appear until the dust settles and most importantly of all and you MUST empthasise this rendel that whatever the situation they ignore all facts to the contrary of their beliefs and maintain a fixed and rigid view that they must not change UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES and then they can follow in your illustrious footsteps. Farewell... :)

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quia Differt Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > rendelharris Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > "and a skin crawling casual-racist misogynist > > > (according to those who've seen your previous > > > incarnation)?... > > > > What goes around Rendell, My Dear, comes > > around.. > > > > ." according to THOSE" PLURAL.. The only > reference > > to that was from Admin . SINGULAR NOT > > PLURAL...THOSE is only used when MORE THAN ONE > > CHARACTER IS SAYING IT. > > "Those" referring to both Admin and those others > who have seen your previous incarnation, including > me, as your slithering unpleasant statements are > still easily discoverable on this forum. Nice > try, failed. You're neither witty enough nor > clever enough to try that sort of thing, I'm > afraid. You said "ACCORDING TO THOSE".....that CLEARLY suggests OTHERS have mentioned that was their opinion of me from before which no-one else has on here so AGAIN you are wrong. Pathetically you have STILL not let us all know why you LIED about saying I "approved" of The Subjects views so why did you lie as you MUST know it was a lie because I only wrote 3/4 lines so it's easy to reference. Again why the blatant lie rendelharris ?

rendelharris: > > You're in danger of distracting from the main > point of why people were laughing at you, which is > that you have had to develop a new alias as > previously you were banned from the forum for > being a skin crawling casual-racist misogynist. > I'm sure you'd like people to remember that. Again you fail to differentiate between Singular and Plural. There was just ONE comment to that effect. An opinion by someone referring to my comments many years ago. Just one person's opinion. Well this one person's opinion was that that comment was nonsense. The fact that YOU and your sidekick have chosen to repeat that phrase over and over does not make it correct. It takes " sucking up" to a new low but it IS amusing so keep it up ! :) OBVIOUSLY if I was banned I HAD to use another name but Admin are the important ones here not you and I made no attempt to change my name to them so stop talking nonsense.

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Exeunt is a plural and only used when more than > one character leaves. Nothing funnier than seeing > someone trying to be clever and failing miserably > through ignorance - Ah!1 You seem to have sobered up ! Excellent ! So you are a Grammar Nazi, as well as a mere run-of-the-mill Nazi who wants to stifle a debate ? You got the Double up. Well Done You. lol or are you referring to your split personality as a nice person (according to > you) ONCE AGAIN where did I say that ? It's Another Lie isn't it rendell? ...If not kindly show me where I said that then, please? "and a skin crawling casual-racist misogynist > (according to those who've seen your previous > incarnation)?... What goes around Rendell, My Dear, comes around.. ." according to THOSE" PLURAL.. The only reference to that was from Admin . SINGULAR NOT PLURAL...THOSE is only used when MORE THAN ONE CHARACTER IS SAYING IT. Nothing funnier than seeing someone " hoist by their own petard" as Shakespeare would say which is funnier seeing that you picked me up on a stage direction often used in The Bard's Plays! I thought you knew the difference between Singular and Plural ? Seems Not !!! :) SHEER BLISS...How do you feel now ? :) TALKING of "Approval" you BLATANTLY lied when you said I "APPROVED" of what he said adding the "neo-nazi attachment" for further effect. Nothing funnier than seeing someone be so weak that they can not admit to a blatant "untruth" when caught out so I ask you again ..Why did you say I approved of what he SAID where I have CLEARLY demonstrated I didn't ? So was it a mistake or yet another lie from you then Rendell ? I didn't bother with the rest of your "drivel" Continually blatantly lying does you no favours at all mijn vriend..

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > QD, the thing to remember when watching video is > that it's edited. The process starts with a point > of view or a message and the available footage is > cut to support that. Even genuine reporting, > whether it's for TV, print or radio, reflects the > agenda or ideology of the organisation that > produces it. It's rarely politically neutral. You make a salient point RPC. You are right in saying that.

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The same as I said before since you ask. > > Quia Differt Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > What say you now ? So, for example you think originally putting "TonySebastianFarquharson.co.uk", for example, and the second time round "TonySebastianFarquharson.. com" constitutes trying some form of deception and getting " caught out?".does it ? :)

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 'the usual frothing fascist nonsense'? That's > pretty rich. Depends on your interpretation of fascist RPC. It's characterized by forcible suppression of opposition. The "forcible" being in words not physical . > > 'Exeunt'. Thought so...as in Love Labours Lost: Exeunt. As our Teaching friend finally returned to the subject I replied and shall eagerly await his ripostes

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quite happy not to have seen that one! Hi Eduardo . I wondered when the final part of this UNholy Trinity was going to emerge. I think you owe me an apology don't you Old Chap? You said I got " caught out" implying that I tried to return here undetected from my first appearance. That was because Admin simply said "Untruth" when I said I put exactly the same E-Mail address. It transpired the ONLY difference was that I stated my my name , exactly like before, but with ".com" after my name instead of the suffix ".co.uk " so as you can plainly see no deception was attempted so I was not " caught out" at all. What say you now ?

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- RH.... > Very much back to the original subject, you spoke > APPROVINGLY of the propaganda videos of Britain's > most notorious neo-fascist, whom this thread > concerns, complaining that the Guardian didn't cover this apparent "truth". Was > that "simply a mistake" as well? I made an error calling The Jews a Race and as soon as it was pointed out I accepted the mistake immediately. Ever made a mistake ? ( apart from going into Teaching that is ? ) Now as we HAVE finally returned to the Subject I shall answer your point and ignore the usual frothing fascist nonsense because that is exactly what you are mein freund. Have a Whisky or something to calm you. I suggest "Teachers! "..I bet you haven't heard that one either, mon ami. You will note the capitalisation below. Firstly this is what I ACTUALLY SAID : " He knew the rules so on that basis it appears a fair cop. INTERESTING to hear his address at The Oxford Union which is on You Tube particularly his videos of what is actually happening in his Hometown of Luton and also it shows the treatment Stacey Dooley, The BBC Reporter received when accompanying a Muslim March there which is also her Hometown." Now I pray you don't teach our language as where does it say I APPROVE of what he said ? NOWHERE ! You simply LIED through your teeth Son. Since when did saying something was "interesting" mean it's "approval?? ". YOU SIMPLY LIED. In fact at no point did I say I approved of what he said . You simply INVENTED me saying that. See rendell you make mistakes too though it wasn't a mistake just a blatant lie. I DO approve of him showing videos of The BBC Reporter Stacey Dooley being verbally abused . So perhaps YOU could answer a question or two now matey : Have you actually seen these videos and, if so, what do you feel about the following ? 1/ How do you feel about the videos clearly showing the stoning of Black and White Families to force them out of the area? 2/ How do you feel about this Woman ( Stacey Dooley ) being clearly abused for her dress sense on the march? 3/ How do you feel about these Guys saying they ONLY obeyed Sharia Law and would disregard our Laws? 4/ Were these videos ever commented on in The Guardian then ? The stage is yours mi amigo. I shall exeunt stage left as I will interested to hear how you intrepreted my comments about what he SAID as "approval" as well as your answers to the above or are you going to avoid the questions like you would like to avoid any meaningful Debate about it ?

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A thread concerning Britain's most notorious > neo-fascist, QD posts approvingly about his videos > as if they're true, complaining he never sees > anything about it in the Guardian. QD gets pulled > up on this and various other unpleasantness, such > as calling Jews a a race. QD whines the thread has > been hijacked. Excellent. Skin crawling casual > racist misogynist. Calling Jews a Race was simply a mistake. You have no credibility in my eyes as your mind is totally fixed and nothing will change your view. It's just frightening that you actually influence our next generation. ONCE AGAIN back to the original subject and prod and smear and abuse as much as you want but I shall not respond to either you or RPC again so the stage is yours little Man.

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Others might argue that you're 'hijacking' threads > with your pernicious ideas, QD. > > If this is a debate, your underlying argument or > point of view appears to be 'people from other > ethnic / religious groups are different from me, > they're not integrating into this society (but > because they're different from me actually I don't > want them to).' Does that nail it? > In other words, you're spreading racism. I will indulge you one last time RPC and you are not going to provoke or lure me in. I ENCOURAGE Societies where we can try and live TOGETHER . Actually the whole point is I DO want all people to live together which is why I do NOT like it when they do not try very hard to. My hobby was visiting London's 500 " Villages" and I have now visited most and I see more and more the continuous spread of areas of one predominant race only. It's the opposite of what you may think I want but by not doing or saying anything through inertia we are doing nothing about it and at my age this is NOT about "me" because I will not see the problems that lie ahead if we do not do something or, at least, start talking. Otherwise we are in real danger of being like vast Urban areas of The USA.

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Agreed, Rendel. > > The real point, in my view, is that QD feels the > NEED to download his bigoted views on any group > that's not white, British (I suspect English would > be closer to the mark) and male. Pretending it's a > 'debate' and bookending it with concessions is > just an attempt to make that look reasonable and > acceptable. It isn't. The fact that you thought Joe Leg was "arguing" when all he was doing was engaging in a Debate says it all. > > Hope Admin puts a stop to it. I was having a perfectly, pleasant interesting Debate with JoeLeg until rendell hijacked it and it's exactly the same 2 posters who took over the other thread iro Louisa. Now history is repeating itself. I have commented on numerous threads recently praising the French Hero on the thread you started , for example and creating the thread iro Tessa Jowell so you are only seeing what you want to see. Confirmation Bias I believe one of you called it. I am giving my views on all manner of things and encouraging debate, that's all. We can't all have your views and different life experience, sadly RPC PLEASE . I am sure if you and rendell stop hijacking the threads I am contributing on then everything will be fine as it was when JoeLeg and I were chatting, very amicably. Now AGAIN back to the Subject matter...

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Too much drivel to be worthy of a reply of similar > length. You want to take some water with it son. "son"..Rude AND .Patronising. > > I shall simply note that my alleged "bubble" must > be a fairly extensive one, being married to a > woman of Asian heritage and thus part of an > extended Asian family, Given that you dismissed my 37/38 years of close-up knowledge of The Black Community then I trust you understand if I equally (ridiculously ) dismiss your first-hand knowledge of The Asian Community. having taught in > inner-city secondary comps for many years. PLEASE tell me you are joking. I beseech you !!! You have displayed nothing other than having a nasty line in rhetoric with the odd smear/slur thrown in (like the disgustingJewish extermination link ) ,a rigid, fixed and closed mind and I can see you are are extremely intolerant of someone who has made a sustained effort to be polite and reasonable and through much wider and greater experience does not share your view on many things. as someone like you who lives on the Kent border > and has supposedly dated black women. Oh and a > Mauritian paid for your takeaway, how can you > possibly be a racist! Pitiful. Unlike you I presume ,I was born right in the heart of INNER South-East London next to the ( then ) biggest council estate in Europe so have forgotten more about the reality of living in the HEART of London then you'll ever know "son" > You supposed loveliness is somewhat undermined by > the fact that, in the words of Admin, "in your > previous incarnation as the skin-crawling > misogynist casual-racist Tony London Suburbs you > were banned for making the forum an unpleasant > place to be." I see no real difference between > your previous incarnation and this one, however > many weasel words you attempt to shroud your > nastiness ... I tried DESPERATELY NOT to drag Admin into this, even to the extent that I did one edit on the last comment I made last night and that was to remove a reference to what they did as you have described. Let's just say that despite the attempts to the contrary one would hope all posters would have an open mind and judge me on my current views and statements and speak as they find. I hope I am never on a Jury with you RH. You are INtolerant, have a fixed, closed mind and as you said it wouldn't matter what I said or did hereafter you are never going to change your view "son" and you a TEACHER.. Frankly it's a disgrace. Now as I am only interested in friendly, sociable, open, engaging Debate with people who are like-minded and you have conclusively shown the complete antithesis of that then I will ask you respectfully ( something Teacher you have spectacularly failed to do ) to not bother me with your unique level of intransigence and you a TEACHER..Dear Lord !! It's pointless discussing anything with you but our communication HAS given me a personal insight into why we are experiencing problems over contentious issues because you LITERALLY can not state your views without disrespect, rudenes,patronisation and personal attacks..and you a Teacher :( Now et's END this correspondence and let others return to the Subject matter RH ...

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quia Differt Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > rendelharris Wrote: > Because I think someone peddling the same > pernicious filth should be called on it. That's > my reason. You have a superficial veneer of "oh > I'm engaging in reasonable debate" but in fact a > lot of what you say is pretty nasty, e.g. you > "know" that Jews buy up houses in certain streets > to keep others out? That Asians are prepared to > do business with others but prefer to remain > within their community otherwise? You're a pretty > unpleasant individual, as far as I can see - > probably why, as per the Louisa thread, you were > banned under another name. > > If you must reply, please don't bother telling us > how many black women you have dated as some > peculiar badge of tolerance, because it's frankly > creepy. "pernicious filth" ??? Even by the prodding/wind-ups here that is a quite breath-taking nadir and I am not rising to the bait at all and going to reply in kind because we both know who will suffer the consequences and it most certainly will not be you rendell. Now as regards Jewish people. I have written at length about my admiration for what they have achieved both in The UK and Worldwide. Their deserved success is quite extraordinary. In The East End they were over 200,000 strong and now only 4,000 remain as they rest have moved onwards and upwards from the ( often ) slums they first came to. They have achieved great success in Academia, The Law,Accountancy The Media and many other Professions and they are around 25% of the Members in the Professional Associations of those groups which is staggering considering they are only 1/200th of the UK populace i.e.They out-perform their numbers by 50 times. this by sheer hard work being family-orientated, having a strong network and being exceptionally shrewd and clever and passing these attributes down. HOWEVER , firstly I was not talking about " certain streets" plural but "one cul-de-sac in North London" singular. Now is your point that you find this hard to believe ( properties in this Cul-De-Sac are over ?1 Million after all by the way )and ,if so, you are incredibly naive and very wrong or you just don't think that I should have told this true anecdote ? The supreme irony is that I have cleaned up this story immensely and if you were capable of having a friendly and civilised and mutually tolerant conversation in a Pub I would tell you the whole story which I am definitely not sharing in Public here so you will forgive my hilarity if you thought that was bad. As for the comment you made regarding my comments about Asians. Once again I have written extensively about their amazing contribution to our Society displaying similar attributes to Jewish people i.e They are very Family-orientated and hard-working and again they are, in general, successful, accordingly. However I'm speechless how you have failed to have noticed what I have said. It can only be that you, literally, do live in the metaphoric "bubble" and are surrounded by like-minded people most of the time. May I gently suggest , just once in a while Rendell, that you enter and have a prolonged stay in the real world out there. You could start by speaking to any of your friends in any of the areas that I mentioned and see if they do not also feel that Asian people, in general with some exceptions, like to live with others who share their Culture and Religion and Race. I have to say that you are the classic caricature of someone who is educated and knows the technically correct terms amd laws even quoting paragraphs and sub-sections, where appropriate, but you seem to have remarkably scant knowledge of the World out there. " Street" you are not ! ! There is a two-word term for someone like that, the first of which is "educated". lol As for me being "unpleasant". Again , ad nauseum, I note the boring old tactic of putting someone on the defensive but I will say I disguise this perceived " unpleasantness" well as in the last 48 hours I have had someone repair my Central Heating and , independently, a neighbour repair my Electric Hob and it's re-wiring both for free. I have had a Mauritian customer/friend insist on paying for my Take-Away and my Nepalese next-door neighbour ( Ex-Gurkha) give me a plate of their home-made food with accompanying Roti nepalese bread. ( I hated it-that's gratitude for you ! ) I must be disguising my unpleasantnes really well then as I obviously also disguise my " casual racism" as after 37/38 years of the afore-mentioned friendships that you find creepy you would have thought someone at some point would have suggested or told me I am /might be a Racist. Maybe none of them have noticed n'est-ce pas ?

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quia Differt Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > The above comment also applies to many Jewish > > people. The Business I started in 1995 involved > a > > myriad of Jewish competitors and most became > > friendly rivals but knowing many of them well > it's > > obvious that they prefer to socialise and, > where > > possible, live among their own Race. > > The Jews are not a race, and take considerable > offence at being described as such, despite the > fact that those who have wished to > segregate/exterminate them have frequently claimed > that they are. Can't believe this still has to be > pointed out. Jewish Nation. I have to say I can't understand your motive for continuing after the initial : "The Jews are not a race, and take considerable > offence at being described as such "..... I would have thought that would have sufficed or better still simply saying " The Jews are a Nation" but then to add the connection that those who wish to segregate/eterminate them was rather superflous but I dare say you had your reasons ..

Robert Poste's Child Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't believe I named anyone. No, you haven't but one day it will occur to some ( not naming anyone, naturellement ) that this tedious tactic of stifling debate is exactly one of the multi-farius reasons why problems continue to exist. I'm sure some ( not naming anyone ) would rather ease their discomfiture at the mere notion of discussing these issues than actually even attempting serious conversations ( not here particularly ) where solutions to topical problems might be found or, at least, some progress be made because the divisions in our Society WILL get wider and wider if we sweep contentious issues under the carpet. If people are worried about speaking and writing about this for fear of being ludicrously branded as extreme then they will play into the hands of those who would rather avoid this difficult area and they will clam up, which is exceedingly unhealthy. Surely in 2018 we can have a dialogue that, at least, seeks to do something or do we just close our eyes,shut our ears, and go "la la la la " and hope a potentially major societal problem will just go away. It certainly won't if it's never discussed, surely you MUST see that ? We have tried " doing nothing" for decades and it's not even a short-term fix let alone in the long run. I know some ( no names) will not want to accept it but their are millions, literally, of normal, ordinary people with no direct political affiliations either to the right or left who are certainly not extreme but ARE concerned about the way our Society is becoming more segregated on Cultural,Racial and Religious lines and I'm sure they would want those empowered to try to address this and see what could be done. Assuming no-one here wants a segregated Society the only adult way forward is to talk without the boring smearing or name-calling. It's actually very simple. No Discussion. No Platform. No Talk = A Continuation of the problems that do exist. Communicating and exchanging views and ideas "might" help.

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quia Differt Wrote > > > > Then that is to your eternal credit as it > amazes > > me how many people don't want to hear or see > > inconvenient things. > > > > > That?s true on both sides of the debate. Again, > the internet is filled with people making claims > that they don?t have to back up. The ?left? - > whatever that is these days - is constantly being > told it lives in a little echo chamber/bias > bubble, but I?d say that near enough everyone is > doing that. > > > > > > Doubtless that is true but doesn't, almost, > > everyone do that ? > > Well yes, doubtless. But it doesn?t make his > footage any less suspect. > > > > > > Fortunately no race war but an increasing > number > > of Towns and areas segregated more and more on > > cultural and religious grounds which I thought > was > > the complete opposite of what we would want and > > were trying to achieve. > > > > Besides Luton ther's > > Leicester,Oldham,Burnley,Blackburn, > Huddersfield, > > Bradford and numerous others. > > > Segregation is a massive problem, and not one that > - IMO - has evolved as a result of government > policy, but more out of government indifference. > For many years Spitalfields had road signs in > Bengali as well as English, and Chinatown of the > 70?s and 80?s has similar in Cantonese. Were these > bad ideas? Probably not. Throughout UK history > we?ve had enclaves, local diaspora?s, call them > what you will. Intergration into British society > was a gradual thing - first generation immigrants > probably kept within their groups, but the kids > thought of themselves as British. Generally there > wasn?t a problem. > > It?s hard for me to know when the balance tipped. > The segregation we see in some towns is a issue > now, but I don?t think it occurred out of any > active policy on anyone?s part; just nobody really > notices until it went too far. My personal feeling > on immigration has always been ?Pay your taxes and > obey the law and everything will be cool.?, which > I reckon covers pretty much everything. > > The reason Yaxley et al wind me up is because they > claim to want a sensible debate on immigration and > integration - which I fully agree we need, not > least because everyone is now so entrenched at the > extremes of the issues which is never a good thing > - but because that isn?t where they want to > finish. The details contained within the political > statements of people like the EDL, BNP and even > the Football Lads Alliance are pretty extreme, > which is ironic given how they claim to be > anti-extremists. > > Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube videos, > they?ve all taken away the need for peer review, > the ability to challenge ideas. Now a theory, a > rumour or a claim, however outlandish, can be > halfway around the world before the truth has got > its boots on. Moreover, due to the instantaneous > nature of the ability to post such stuff, no one > has to stop and think before saying it; people can > and are reacting fast. Now there?s a place for > that, but also there?s a time to stop and think > before opening your browser, and too many don?t. > And then there?s the simple fact that a lot of > people believe something just because it?s online > and tallies their worldview. > > Debate on this issue has descended to the level of > adolescents shouting cod psychology at each other > in the schoolyard. Excellent analysis imo. Normally to save endless rhetoric I cut the irrelevant points to which I am not going to refer and leave only the salient points but your post deserves to be preserved in its entirety JL. My only comment is that I am in a highly unusual position because I have dated a multitude of Black Women over the last 37/38 years and I know that for the overwhelming majority I am the exception to the rule in that I might, often, be the only Non-Black person present and I know that, mainly for Cultural reasons while they may work with other Races they choose to socialise with each other,primarily but not exclusively. I am not so au fait with the Asiatic Community but it's obvious after living in the London environs for 64 years that, while they re more than happy to do Business with other Races they prefer not only to socialise but to live with each other and if that creates Asiatic Communities based, also, on religious as well as Cultural grounds they are happy with that. The above comment also applies to many Jewish people. The Business I started in 1995 involved a myriad of Jewish competitors and most became friendly rivals but knowing many of them well it's obvious that they prefer to socialise and, where possible, live among their own Race. No names but I know one North London Cul-De-Sac where any property for sale is bought by the other exclusive Jewish residents to retain the status quo as that is the way they like it. So for the future as long as we all tolerate and are pleasant with each other we can co-exist but I,sadly, predict there will be more segregation not less. I can give numerous examples why I believe that but it's best summed up by a customer in Chadwell Heath,Essex who had Family in that area for Generations and yet he surprised me when he told me last summer, that in 2/3 years he will be moving further out as his nearest Primary School is now 90%+ Asian as their Community has enlarged over time down The London Road from Forest Gate/Manor Park/Seven Kings etc and he wanted his Grand-Daughter, who lives with them to have an education which he believes is more culturally suited to her. Regards QD.

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I?ve seen those videos. Like I say, I?ll > watch/hear the opposing view. Then that is to your eternal credit as it amazes me how many people don't want to hear or see inconvenient things. > > I strongly suspect that it is in Tommy/Stephen?s > interest to only show footage which backs up his > claims. Doubtless that is true but doesn't, almost, everyone do that ? > > There are disgusting Muslim individuals who do > indeed want only Sharia law - and I would point > out that they are singularly failing on their aim > - just as there is the Westboro Baptist Church, > rabid militant Indian Hindus and pretty appalling > ultra-Orthodox Jews. Religious extremism in any > form can get to %^*$! Dig deep enough into any > religion and you will find nasty stuff hiding > under the stones. All True and more . Take a look outside your window - do you see > any race war going on? Didn?t think so, but this > sounds remarkably like the claptrap peddled on the > sixties by opponents of civil rights. Fortunately no race war but an increasing number of Towns and areas segregated more and more on cultural and religious grounds which I thought was the complete opposite of what we would want and were trying to achieve. Besides Luton ther's Leicester,Oldham,Burnley,Blackburn, Huddersfield, Bradford and numerous others.

rendelharris Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quia Differt Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Interesting to hear his address at The Oxford > > Union which is on You Tube particularly his > videos > > of what is actually happening in his Hometown > of > > Luton > > I believe you mean what he claims is actually > happening - and the Guardian and many other media > outlets have in fact given extensive coverage to > his ludicrous attempts to stir up hatred. I have no idea whether his claims are true or not. However the videos from Luton including the stoning of Black and White Families,with the expressed aim of getting them to flee, from the area seeme very real and they clearly show the harassment that these people face which I have never seen publicised elsewhere. What did you think of the videos he showed including the one when Stacey Dooley was blatantly abused whilst accompanying the March and what did you think of the views expressed on that March when those interviewed said they had no interest in what any Non-Islamic person thought and had no intention whatsoever of obeying British Law and only Sharia Law was to be obeyed? Or have you not seen those videos in his Address?

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otherwise known as Tommy Robinson. It's out in > the open now, sent down for 13 months (10 months > for this contempt of court and 3 months suspended > activated from the last time). Hundreds > protesting outside Downing Street and 500,000 have > signed a petition for his freedom - but surely > it's the law, he pleaded guilty and he had it > coming. Hi JohnL can I delicately suggest that if you had put "a.k.a." Tommy Robinson in the title then it would attract a much wider viewing and, thus, comments. I'm assuming most would not, readily, be familiar with that name and might just think it's about trying to contact someone local even though it is in The Lounge ? > > https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy- > robinson-jailed-contempt-court-facebook-live-video > -stephen-yaxley-lennon-a8374121.html

He knew the rules so on that basis it appears a fair cop. Interesting to hear his address at The Oxford Union which is on You Tube particularly his videos of what is actually happening in his Hometown of Luton and also it shows the treatment Stacey Dooley, The BBC Reporter received when accompanying a Muslim March there which is also her Hometown. Don't remember hearing about or seeing this in The Gaurdian.

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes and you're digressing from the name of this > thread, so can we get back to that and if you wish > to play semantics, I suggest you either play tit > for tat with Admin via private message or or on a > separate thread. And don't forget, Admin is the > Darth Vader of the Forum, it can giveth and taketh > away at the swipe of a keyboard key. Yes you are and Admin are right so I will say no more but the word "Untruth" was said publicly hence my Public riposte. Anyway I had no desire AT ALL to deflect away from this thread about Louisa but when Edcam publicly says "caught out" again I would say that the rejoinder has, also, to be in Public.

Administrator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quia Differt Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > You are , genuinely, telling me I used another > > name ? That, simply, can not be true ... > > No, I said you did not "use exactly the same > E-Mail address on returning" as *shudders and > feels queasy*, as Tony London Suburbs So imagine my name is "SebastianTarquinFarquharson" and I used that name followed by ".co.uk" the first time and used exactly the same name again but this time with ".com" the second time :). .It's just Edcam said I got " caught out " and its obvious from the above similar example that I was not trying to catch anyone out and yet you simply sad "Untruth" which would lead anyone to intrepret that as thinking I was lying and being deceitful ( hence being " caught out" ) so as the character " George" used to say in Black Adder " Clever ! " " Clever! ". What did Malcolm Tucker say about " Semantics" in The Thick Of It ? :)