diable rouge

Yep, DAG always states what has to happen legally as things currently stand, obviously things can change e.g. EU approves an extension of time to A50 for passing of such an Act. On John's subject of amendments, looks like Dominic Grieve has out-trumped them all with his...

Quote of the day... There really is not enough popcorn in the world for the shit that is going to go down in parliament today.

You'll drive yourself nuts John going through all the potential outcomes if May's deal is voted down. Assuming it does get voted down, if the numbers are as big as has been estimated by some, then she may simply quit there and then, and we'll be in an even bigger constitutional crisis than we are now. "Events, my dear boy, events"...

Shaggy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But we all would have know three years ago that > A50 could be stopped. The Gov with their constant attempts (11 times if I'm not mistaken) to have this A50 revocation case not heard, shows how they didn't want it to be known that A50 could be stopped. Thus it suited them to act as they did during the Miller case. For all their protestations of 'taking back control' and 'sovereignty', May's Gov (the Executive) has continually tried to ride roughshod over Parliament and it's procedures, e.g, the Miller case, the meaningful vote, and even as recent as yesterday with the legal advice debate. I don't think I'm using hyperbole when I say that this Gov has shown fascistic leanings in how it has conducted itself and the contempt it has for Parliamentary procedure since the Referendum...

Once again David Allen Green is the go to person in such matters, check out his Twitter and how he has to correct so called journalists who have wrongly commented on the AG's opinion piece. It's staggering that one BBC journalist said it was a ruling that the UK can unilaterally extend A50...not even close. DAG also highlights that there are conditions attached with the AG's opinion, e.g. if it is approved by the EUCJ, the UK Parliament will still need to pass an Act to implement the unilateral withdrawal, and also it has to be done in ''good faith and sincere cooperation'', meaning that the UK can't simply stop the clock in order to carry on re-negotiating, otherwise the 2 year cycle could start all over again...and again... and again. The UK must want to cancel Brexit period...

Careful what you wish for grandad...:)

Note tonight's game and a Brucie Bonus of mid-week games. Week 14 fixtures... Friday 30th November Cardiff City v Wolverhampton Wanderers Saturday 1st December Crystal Palace v Burnley Huddersfield Town v Brighton & Hove Albion Leicester City v Watford Manchester City v AFC Bournemouth Newcastle United v West Ham United Southampton v Manchester United Sunday 2nd December Chelsea v Fulham Arsenal v Tottenham Hotspur Liverpool v Everton Tuesday 4th December AFC Bournemouth v Huddersfield Town Brighton & Hove Albion v Crystal Palace West Ham United v Cardiff City Watford v Manchester City Wednesday 5th December Burnley v Liverpool Everton v Newcastle United Fulham v Leicester City Wolverhampton Wanderers v Chelsea Manchester United v Arsenal Tottenham Hotspur v Southampton

Buried among the madness there are still little gems like this...:) Fittingly the interview, carried out in Argentina where the PM is at a meeting of the G20, is accompanied by the chattering of wild animals ...

Week 13 points... Week 13 table...

alex_b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I had an electrician waste his time and mine > coming round and then never bothering to send a > quote despite two polite reminder emails. This cuts both ways, the public don't always respond to submitted quotes and follow-up calls/emails...

It effects new retirees, and takes effect from the end of the transition period. But should we crash out with 'no deal' then existing retirees instantly lose their rights. IMO their rights should've been ring-fenced in the deal to protect them from such an awful scenario. If an existing retiree living in Portugal wanted to move to Spain after transition, say for better healthcare reasons, they wouldn't be able to do so freely. In effect they could be stuck in Spain or would have to come back to the UK. Most of this was agreed back in March and hasn't moved on much since. Lots of uncertainties, and people are understandably concerned...https://britishineurope.org/where-does-the-march-agreement-leave-me/

zerkalo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As an EU citizen who has been living and > contributing in the UK for years, I feel very > offended by the PMs 'queue jumping' comments. > Having to apply to stay in our homes is bad > enough, but language like this only adds insult to > injury. Her apology is frankly too little too > late. She didn't actually apologise, merely stated that she shouldn't have used that term. Not only did she insult EU citizens who legitimately exercised their right to live and work in the UK, but also the million+ UK citizens doing likewise in the EU. She trumpets ending Freedom of Movement as some kind of victory, yet by doing that she will take away the right of UK citizens to freely travel, work, study and live/retire in the EU. EU citizens will still be able to freely travel to 26 other countries, whereas for UK citizens it will be zilch. Some victory. Whenever I feel a modicum of sympathy for her current predicament I quickly remind myself that when it comes to immigration, May has always had a nasty streak. She was the architect of the 'hostile environment' at the Home Office, which led to the 'Go Home' advertising vans and appalling treatment of the Windrush generation. She's used Brexit to further her anti-immigration MO, a deal ending free movement with Brexit-lite attached as an addendum. And now she wants to reconcile with remainers, the same remainers she put down as 'citizens of nowhere'. Get. To. Fook..

And here's the view from the nation's living rooms... BBC, you gonna have to build an even taller tower :)

Yep, he originally called in 'Norway for now' which didn't go down well...

DovertheRoad Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Question ..is the current deal on the table a soft > or hard Brexit? Or a "fudge deal" ? Hard, as it takes us out of the Single Market. It's also harder than the so called Chequers deal as that promised frictionless trade which May's deal doesn't. There's lots of fudge too. The 'Plan B' Norway option which is being talked about as an alternative should May's deal collapse, would keep us in the SM and is considered soft. IMO the Norway option best reflects the closeness of the referendum and I'm sure a lot of Remainers would've accepted that, but May egged on by the Brextremists got greedy...

It's the way he refers to the EU as a 4th Reich and then proceeds on full-authoritarian let's round 'em all up mode. Lack of self-awareness must run in the family...

He's not giving up...:)

I've found the obvious candidate to debate for No Deal, Corbybabes bro...:)

Interesting that May's laid down the challenge to Corbyn. At the election she was the one running scared from leaders' debates. And why have such a public debate, the public aren't voting on her deal, MPs are. I think she would win a debate with Corbyn simply because he hasn't got a proposal for a Brexit deal to speak of that isn't more cakeism. But even if he had, why should there be a debate on it, Parliament is voting on May's deal, not May's versus Corbyn's. Instead she should be debating with someone proposing No Deal, as that currently is the only legal alternative to May's deal. For anything else to happen, e.g an alternative deal or People's Vote, Article 50 needs to be extended with the EU's permission to allow for the time needed to carry out such an alternative strategy...

Week 13 fixtures... Saturday 24th November Brighton & Hove Albion v Leicester City Everton v Cardiff City Fulham v Southampton Manchester United v Crystal Palace Watford v Liverpool West Ham United v Manchester City Tottenham Hotspur v Chelsea Sunday 25th November AFC Bournemouth v Arsenal Wolverhampton Wanderers v Huddersfield Town Monday 26th November Burnley v Newcastle United

Some people have too much time on their hands...

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > One under-reported event from last > week is that the Gov lost an appeal against a case > for the CJEU to rule whether the UK can > unilaterally withdraw the A50 notice, thereby not > needing the approval of all the EU27, as it > currently stands. You'd think that would be a nice > insurance to have should things get really sticky, > but this Gov is trying to appeal again, this time > to the Supreme Court, using 5 QC's, more than they > used in the Gina Miller case. If it fails the case > will be heard before the CJEU at the end of this > month. Govt appeal again rejected. Up yours Maybot...https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1064811821809483776

As long as the plywood is nailed/screwed to the joists properly, it will provide all the 'load-bearing' you need for furniture/people walking about etc. Eng wood flooring is just a finish and doesn't have a 'load-bearing' capacity. It's inherent 'strength' is that it's not supposed to move, warp, split, crack etc like normal floorboards can. Junckers, a leading manufacturer, make most of their boards 14mm thick...

Are you another hot date rah?...:)