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Bic Basher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Lambeth gained three Lib Dem councillors and became the official opposition on an anti-LTN ticket, beating the Greens. But that doesn't show the whole picture, in that anti-LTN's were very much in a minority, albeit vocal, which was the point that quote was making... Labour 58 Lib Dems 3 Greens 2 Conservatives 0 People would have voted against the Tories regardless and found Labour to be the alternative regardless of the local politics. Which again backs up the quote's point, that despite the vocal rhetoric it wasn't the big issue to buck such trends as it was painted out to be...

As a neutral on this pro/anti LTN debate I have to concur with what Independent journalist Jon Stone says... Loud but tiny anti-LTN campaigns have been a huge boost for Labour councils? across London opposition parties have oversestimated opposition to schemes, latched onto campaigns, and lost basically everywhere. Lambeth now has zero Tory councillors for the first time ever! We've been here before with the anti/pro smoking ban, and likewise the vast majority of people will just get on with their lives as normal...

jazzer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Even funnier their is the beginnings of talk on GB News of Starmer being replaced, so much for a united team, you really couldn't make it up even if you wanted to!!! What's really amusing is seeing newspapers/pundits/posters et al who were once saying there are far more important things to talk about than parties/fines etc, now happily talking about someone eating a curry... Should add Tory ministers/MPs who once wouldn't comment on the parties/fines until Sue Grey and the Met had carried out their respective report/investigation, are now happy to comment on a case under investigation.

jazzer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Many will now have to endure a further four years of seeing the borough on a further downward spiral with increase council tax and fewer services. With Covid and now the cost of living crisis, there can't be many councils that haven't or won't put up council tax and/or reduce services. This is up to 2019/20 for England... Local authority ?spending power? ? that is, the amount of money local authorities have to spend from government grants, council tax, and business rates ? has fallen by 16% since 2010 Councils can't borrow this shortfall, so something has to give...

Style Police Officer Nigello patrols the Dulwich environs, his mission to protect the public from aesthetically-challenged assaults to the street landscape... Typical! Another ugly, tawdry attempt by the Council at traffic calming. The Bloomsbury Set would be turning in their graves!

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Back to the physical reality of the Village LTN - it?s ugly and looks extemporised with the random planters, useless traffic lights and trip-friendly kerbs. Don't fret Nigello, some nice, bright, colourful plastic banners around the planters will soon brighten up the place...:)

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- ...LTNs drove a wedge between people and the council has to make it a priority to help mend the damage they did with the way they handled the whole process. As someone who hasn't got a dog in this particular fight, this all comes across as a bit like Brexit in that people are either in favour of LTNs or against them, there's no middle ground to be had. How do you think a compromise can be found?...

Sky has come up with some number crunching on what the locals would mean at a GE...https://news.sky.com/story/local-elections-2022-tories-could-face-losing-parliamentary-majority-sky-news-projection-12606792

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The way its going next election will be Tobias > Ellwood versus Chris Bryant for PM. Fine, as long as we don't get to see Chris Bryant's Gaydar white briefs pics again...:)

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- And surely if there was a party wall notice it's a party wall on the boundary? Party Wall Notices can apply to walls/areas of work that aren't directly on the boundary e.g. foundation works that, if close enough, could undermine the neighbouring property...

heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It might have to be Lab/Lib/SNP.... Yep, the SNP would probably want IndyRef2 for their support, and the Lib Dems electoral reform as rah suggests...

Sunny day music...

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Yes and the way you are suggesting people look at the popular vote is the way Labour are trying to spin this as a victory but they know what we are seeing today is not good enough to win at a GE If you listen to politicians' spin, they all won last night :) But it's wrong to dismiss what happened in 2019 and only relate to Labour's performances in 2018 and 2022. This polling expert explains it well... Could Labour have done better in Red Wall areas? Of course, but they don't have to if the Tories lose seats in their southern Blue Wall, and there are signs that could happen, especially to the Lib Dems (Note: this is on 2018 v 2022, so reality is far worse for Tories with respect to what happened in 2019)... But analysis from polling expert Prof Sir John Curtice suggests, based on these results being repeated whenever Boris Johnson pulls the electoral trigger, Labour would not grab enough seats for a Westminster majority. In fact it would not even topple the Tories as the largest party in the Commons. I notice that he doesn't say the Tories would have an overall majority either. As things stand, I'd hazard a guess that if there was a GE tomorrow, the likely event is that there would be a hung parliament, leading to a Lab/Lib Dem coalition with Starmer as PM. I'd take that any day of the week, because right now we need competent middle ground consensus politics to get through some extremely difficult times ahead...

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- The only reason I wouldn't vote Green in a general election is that I think Helen Hayes is an excellent constituency MP, as was Tessa Jowell before her. This might be another reason for you Sue. The Greens have recently said that once the Ukraine war is resolved, they will campaign for the UK to leave NATO. If so, that will be a big vote loser for them. Even the German Greens don't advocate such lunacy...

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Looking at the results thus far I think Labour has a problem nationally - they should have cleaned-up in these elections... This has to be seen in the context that at the last local elections in 2018, Labour did very well, but then went on nationally a year later to perform terribly at the GE, so you can't just compare the 2018 and 2022 results in isolation and say Labour should've done much better, they were never going make huge gains in the number of seats. A better way is to look at Labour's share of the vote and how that would transpose if it were a GE, I'm sure some pollsters will be number crunching that info as we speak. The Tories are probably hurting from losing some key London seats but probably think they got away with one as they should have taken a hammering... The Tories losing Wandsworth and Westminster will be causing a lot more pain than just 'hurting'. These were Tory flagship councils, not just in London, but also nationally. Even when Blair won a landslide in '97 and subsequent elections, the Tories controlled these councils. As Tory MP for Wimbledon, Stephen Hammond, said this morning, angry Tory voters didn't just stay at home and not vote as many people thought they would, they actually came out and voted against the Tory party. That will send alarm bells ringing in CCHQ and Tory MP's sitting uncomfortably in marginal seats...

Week 33 fixtures... Saturday 7th May Brentford v Southampton Burnley v Aston Villa Chelsea v Wolverhampton Wanderers Crystal Palace v Watford Brighton & Hove Albion v Manchester United Liverpool v Tottenham Hotspur Sunday 8th May Arsenal v Leeds United Leicester City v Everton Norwich City v West Ham United Manchester City v Newcastle United Tuesday 10th May Aston Villa v Liverpool Wednesday 11th May Leeds United v Chelsea Leicester City v Norwich City Watford v Everton Wolverhampton Wanderers v Manchester City Thursday 12th May Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal

What?!!!!...I'm primarily a Lounge Lizard, where did you read that?...

kissthisguy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In general, ie across Southwark, or do you mean in > ED and or DV? > > diable rouge Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Going by postal voting, early indications are > that > > it will be a low turnout... Nationally, it was Tweeted yesterday by some journalist or polling expert. Of course there could be local variations that buck the national trend...

I'm not pro-Labour per se and therefore not an apologist for them, but the last time I looked, Corbyn wasn't leader and I don't think he's even got the Whip, so I think Labour nationally are trying to put their house in order with respect to the hard left in their party. What happens at the top feeds it's way down, hence why it's important to give this Gov a message that it's not wanted. Right now I couldn't give a flying fig whether or not there's an LTN in my street, there are far more important things happening in the country as a whole. In normal times I would agree with the sentiment that we should vote on national matters at a General Election not the locals, but we're not living in normal times. The sooner Johnson goes the better, and voting out Tory councilors/councils will help in that respect. Johnson will only go if Tory MPs kick him out, for that to have a chance of happening they need to be sent a message that Johnson has become an electoral liability...

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So many people I have spoke. To seem to have been seduced by the narrative that local elections are about national issues (driven in the main by Labour) No one is being seduced. Lots of people are hacked-off with this current Gov, we need to prioritise, there's no point having nicey-nicey local Gov if the country is going to pot. It's naive in the extreme to think that if the Tories do well in the local elections, Johnson and his cabal won't grandstand about it and say it's a vindication of their policies. Get rid of this Gov, then sort out local issues...

Going by postal voting, early indications are that it will be a low turnout...

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Thanks, you learn something new every day, too late for this season, still need to play my bench boost... :)

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