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DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- >I don't think anyone has been disrespectful to the victims of > this crime. so you really don't think that the following are disrespectful?!?: [the parents failed] "to look out for their kids or change the culture they live in" "The good thing here is that they seem to only shoot each other" "It appears the young black youth have no interest in life, other than being a gang member who carries weapons,and wants to emulate Los Angeles Ganksters."

drew Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Very useful in tracking local stats: > > http://www.police.uk/ > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12330078 so what are you going to use the stats for?

Tarot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It appears the young black youth have no interest > in life, other than being a gang member who > carries weapons,and wants to emulate Los Angeles > Ganksters. > > Some people may say,its racist, you're right - it's racist and intentionally so i'd suggest

Ridgley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > agree with DJKQ yes we do, pk you need get out > more there is generation of young people that > would like to punch your lights out if you stare > at them to long or you can be travelling on a bus > or train you accidentally step on there toes they > want kill you just look at the town centres on a > Friday night. Definition ? [C + singular or plural verb] all the people of about the same age within a society or within a particular family it's my view that a very small proportion of people of the same age would e.g. punch my lights out, i'd say that this is supported by the fact that i've travelled on many buses and stepped on many toes in my life without having my lights punched out perhaps you need to get your dictionary out more?

DJKillaQueen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The point is that we have a generation of young > men and women who think voilence is perfectly > acceptable behaviour for the most insignificnt of > reasons. 'a generation'?! no we don't

Ridgley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > he was not Semalin. what does 'Semalin' mean?

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reports of some sinister posters on the Pelican > estate mind you. > > http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-239 > 13786-murder-estate-posters-warn-stop-snitching.do > > > That implies some gang activity to me. Much to > early to link this. > > i think that this story's run it's course - the person issuing the leaflets was a disgruntled witness http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23917493-dont-snitch-flyers-came-from-a-disgruntled-murder-witness.do in relation to this thread, i agree with those saying the speculation and generalisation shouldn't be in this thread - a young man has been killed and for me this thread/this time in the immediate aftermath is a time to express condolences and for reflection, not for blaming parents/hip hop/sainsburys for anyone closely effected, you have my sincerest sympathy - it must be terrible

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > > is that an entirely bad concept? many can't afford to do this, and giving money to shopkeepers is certainly not an efficient way of improving the local environment > You will always be able to find many items cheaper > in a large supermarket - they run deals all the > time and have much much greater buying power > (which also includes squeezing suppliers until the > pips squeak) > agreed > But then again many items are much much more > expensive than local shops - buy that little > packet of parsley for best part of a pound or get > a much much bigger and fragrant bunch from a local > shop for less? agreed > > And if it's just one item you are in and out in > seconds from a local shop - if you go to > sainsbury's (does that involve a drive) chances > are you end up spending more on other items as > well agreed - so it sounds like there's a place for both > > But you would think if a local shop is charging x2 > for items they would be rich, no? And yet I don't > see it there's a real lack of logic here - if there was pub charging x2 for a pint would they be rich? - no, they'd go out of business, because people would buy their beer elsewhere

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------- > > Fears were this week raised over spiralling rents > and the decline of traditional shopping in Crouch > End Broadway after a major electrical store closed > down. > > Traders and politicians are concerned that the > prominent shopfront opposite the town hall vacated > this week by Powerhouse could be taken over by > another coffee shop or restaurant. > > > "It's very sad. We are eating away at our > traditional shops a problem hyped by the ability > of coffee shops and restaurants to pay totally > unrealistic rents.". > > "It's reaching the point that only bigger stores > or restaurants can afford the exorbitant rents," > she said. > > Waitrose > > Article Here so what's your point? that the electrical shops (?) won't survive with so many restaurants, coffee shops and trinket shops? have you read the article (which dates from 2005 as already pointed out)? it even talks about a supermarket being replaced by a coffee shop

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi DJ, > The thread is "Are the Lib Dems broken". I'm sorry > for you that after so much debate on this topic > its been repeatedly shown they're not. > i don't think that it has, but as i know that you think that the by-election result provided the definitive answer - would you say that your partners in coalition certainly are broken?

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I guess it all depends on your views on cultural > relativism. Do we look at the traveller community > and say, "...well, that's their culture and they > should be free to practice it..." and thus > tolerate misogyny, casual racism and a desire not > to integrate into British society at large OR do > we criticise such things and open ourselves to > charges of prejudice and intolerance of others? > but before all this we have to accurately establish what 'their' culture is, if indeed there is a uniform culture - and i suggest that this shouldn't be done by watching a single documentary (or even several) showing a very small number of 'them', who may or may not be representative of the coummunity as a whole (to the extent that there is a unified community) also, what's representative of 'British society at large'?

Ridgley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If they are Gypsy?s or Travellers > how can they afford this and do they pay taxes. > i think that by and large they work to earn money, as most of us do as with any other group, i am sure some pay all their taxes and some don't

siousxiesue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Watched this in horror... > They ended with a trailer for next week's > programme-something along the lines of being an > endangered culture, from what we'd seen, with the > violent courtship practices and very traditional > set up of gender based roles, all I could think > was 'bring it on'! any other cultures that you'd like to get rid of?

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What "some people" (me included) are saying, is that the forum allows one > to canvas opinion in a wider, and more cost > effective manner than any of the alternatives. more cost effective maybe but wider - i don't think so > Of course there are lots of people in ED that don't > use the forum, but to suggest that the only people > using it are middle class 30 somethings with "time > on their hands", is a nonsense. i don't know about the demographics on here but i'd be amazed if middle class 30 somethings with time on their hands aren't massively overrepresented

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wouldn't you like to see a positive LSD story on > the news? like this: not new i accept but always worth an airing

my advice would be to do nothing

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Knocking on doors across East Dulwich it seems > about 10x as many people reading EDF as posting. > I've had many emails, texts and a few PM's that > broadly correlates to the ration of people for or > against. They clearly didn't feel they wanted to > expose themselves to some of the direct responses > that do sometimes appear on the forum. > > This thread was meant to test opinion in finger in > the air way. It was never meant to be definitive > but an indicator.It has been really useful in > achieving that small simple aim. > > THANK YOU to everyone who's responded in whatever > way felt best for them. so what are you going to do with the info that you've collected?

Huggers Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > men saying they are on govenment emmission > surveying team currently ringing door bells in > Nutbrook street(Bellenden area)yellow jackets and > vague id citing ''head office''. I said 'so which > department are you from in the government.' He > said 'emmissions' I said 'environmental agency?' > he said yes. I said 'I think you are a private > ecompany' he said 'yes.' 'So you are not from the > govenernment?'....They may not even be that. > Anyway, sent them packing. so what was the con that they were trying on?

emc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have to interview someone there - from my > landline probably to their (UK) mobile - anyone > know cheapest way - is it those phone cards or > other? > > Many thanks if you are in the uk dialling a uk mobile the fact that they are in dubai shouldn't cost you any more (it'll cost them though i think) - might be cheapest to call from your mobile?

what i don't understand it why a local mother who uses the park who volunteers to appear on tv with her child as a local mother who uses the park should be seen as an actor or 'artiste' how can it be 'flouting' employment law when there's no employment? would people really rather that 'local mother and child' on a documentary was 'actor and some child pretending to be local mother and child'?

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am extremely sad to have heard of the passing of > Gary Mason in a cycling accident in Wallington > yesterday. RIP > > http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/British-B > oxing-Champion-Gary-Mason-Dies-In-A-Cycling-Accide > nt/Article/201101115885744?lpos=UK_News_First_Home > _Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15885744_Brit > ish_Boxing_Champion_Gary_Mason_Dies_In_A_Cycling_A > ccident > > http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/07012011/58/ex-briti > sh-champ-mason-dies-accident.html when gary used to have an office in camberwell i used to see him quite a lot (when i used to live round there too) he was truly a nice guy RIP

paragon Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Huguenot Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I see discrimination every day. I just don't > see > > it in everything. > > > > I also recognise that seeing it in everything > is > > displaying a prejudice and discrimination every > > bit as bad as the ones that I despise. > > I completely agree with you. > > I don't see it in everything, I see it in how the > media reports/prioritises these kind of events. depends what is meant by 'everything' i guess - discrimination does not exist in every interaction between any people, but i'd say that it probably does exist in most types of interaction between people be it between 'citizens', in the media, in workplaces and e.g. in the police force i'd also be so bold as to suggest that there's discrimination that Huguenot misses everyday

aprayerforowenmeany Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The results of a question posted in this > forum can hardly be hardly be held up as > representative of the wider community. totally agree but if they were and all the people on here are really committed to supporting local independents then presumably the independents would survive even if another option was available for those that wanted it - so i can't see the problem with filling an otherwise empty unit, creating new jobs and enabling those without e.g. the money or time to shop in the independents to shop somewhere else

legalbeagle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I not "going up to women with dreadlocks > to say that some nutter's looking for them". I'm > wondering whether to give the refuge this > information in case it is helpful. i said that in relation to the bit where you said: "If I DO see the woman fitting that description (and I haven't so far) I wonder should I tell her?"

legalbeagle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have no doubt he wasn't her brother at all but > is the person she's escaped from IF this theory is > correct. but you've no reason to have no doubt - as you say you don't even know whether the theory's correct at all but you're still considering going up to women with dreadlocks to say that some nutter's looking for them when he may or may not be a nutter and he may or may not be looking for a women with dreadlocks? - it's nonsense as tarot pointed out it's just as (if not more) likely that he wanted to steal from you