silverfox

Right, I'm off to join the twacks on Norcross Road and Lordship Lane. (See Peckhamgatecrasher's post for definition)

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- put this on your Christmas list Silverfox! Wow, thanks for that Peckhamgatecrasher, Christmas has come early for me and you've certainly got my measure! The words fornale, to spend one?s money before it has been earned; cagg, a solemn vow or resolution not to get drunk for a certain time; shot clog, an Elizabethan term for a drinking companion only tolerated because he pays for the round certainly sum me up while deipnosophist, a Jacobean word for a skillful dinner conversationalist, only in my dreams. I'm feeling a bit crambazzled this morning but enjoyed your present. PS, are you a stridewallop?

I know Etherow Street well and use it almost daily. There are many problems with this busy thoroughfare, not just selfish parents dropping off children, who I have to agree are a nightmare, stopping in the middle of the road, car doors flinging open, while other impatient drivers try to squeeze past. 1. Buses are a problem. It would be better to take them off this road altogether by terminating them in Forest Hill. This would allieviate pressure on Friern Road and Etherow Street a free up much needed parking space for parents to drop off children (which is inevitable). 2. The parking drives belonging to the houses on one side of the road are not always used by the residents adding to the cars parked on that stretch 3. It is a rat run for drivers coming off Lordship Lane to avoid the lights by the library. 4. It is used as a convenient parking spot for some commuters who park up and then catch the buses into town to get to work. 5. It's used for parking by some of the teachers, by some local shopkeepers during the day, by those working at the hostel on the corner and by those visiting the church with the cafe on Barry Road. Sundays can be busier than a week day at times as the church is well-attended with services that appear to last for a couple of hours or more. 6. Delivery vans/postal vans need to drop off supplies at the school. 7. Particularly at weekends, cyclists ignore it's one way system and mums, dads with kids in tow are often seen cycling the wrong way as they return from the park (when they're not using the pavements that is). And I understand it's going to get slightly worse as the council have plans to extend the yellow school parking lines up to the newly installed disabled parking bay to allow for a handicapped/disabled drop off zone outside the school gates. Jamma is correct when she says the perception of a school in a community is important and the selfishness of a few can undo the good work of dedicated teachers and staff. Yes, traffic wardens and PCSOs should be required to patrol school roads at key times. Teachers are not so precious that they couldn't take it in turns to stand outside the gates for 10 minutes to stop parents parking illegally or stopping dangerously. The parents themselves could take it in turns to patrol the drop off parking rush. Shame about the clumsy wording of the thread though.

Post/shut up? Post/shut up? Post/shut up? Oh, what a dilemma

???? Wrote: > And that sums the drawing room's dilemma up What dilemma? There is no dilemma. It's simple really. The Forum is for everyone to give their tuppence-worth on any subject, whatever the mood - informative, witty, sarcastic, serious etc - and the categories for you to express yourself have recently been increased. If I thought The Drawing Room was elitist I wouldn't go there. If someone knows more about a topic than me (or pretends to) I'll learn from them or ignore them. The 20 or so people on this thread, as witty and vocal as you are, are not self-appointed representatives of the Forum as a whole. Join in or shut up. Simple.

I believe the 176 goes past the Barcelona but they charge 12.5% service charge so I wouldn't leave a tip as well. You may find a few days is too long though.

See what you mean Woof, I'd better change sides tonight I'm obviously still sleepy

Right-hand side - my happy side (bedhead faces south). Last week it was left but wife made change the room around after it was redecorated

Moos Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > See, that's what's wrong with this world, > political correctness gone mad. Because she's a > WOMAN, she was able to take advantage of her boss > and marry him, now that wouldn't have been an > option for her male colleagues, would it? Civil partnerships are now legal so yes, it could have been

Just came across another word today that is new to me (but maybe not to the erudite and French speaking members of the Forum). Rou? As in: "Alan Clark, the notorious parliamentarian and rou?, left behind a cache of explosive material for his biographer, Ion Trewin" rou?? [ roo ?y ] (plural rou??s) noun Definition: debauched man: a man who regularly engages in drinking, gambling, and womanizing ( literary ) [Early 19th century. < French< past participle of rouer "break on the wheel" (a medieval instrument of torture) < Latin rotare (see rotate)] Word History The term rou? is thought to stem from Philip, duke of Orl?ans and regent of France (1715-1723), who humorously designated his debauched companions as rou?s, either to suggest that they deserved to be broken upon the wheel or because their behaviour was so exhausting that they felt they had undergone this torture.

Picking up on one of your earlier points Hal9000, what does Quantum Mind theory say about consciousness that may point to the existence of a God-like entity?

Perhaps deportment is more about how one stands, moves etc (book on head while walking) and comportment is about behaviour, conduct, etiquette?

Ah, I've heard of Deportment classes but not Comportment

I suppose the answer to your questions is that I, in my live state (or is that my dead state?), don't know.

Right, let me try and get my head around this. A quantum superposition is the combination of all the possible states of a system (for example, the possible positions of a subatomic particle). The Copenhagen interpretation implies that the superposition undergoes collapse into a definite state only at the exact moment of quantum measurement. Okay - if I understand this - it's only when the observer checks that you can tell what state the object (state) is in and according to Schr?dinger's Cat experiment it can't be both alive and dead at the same time as that would be a paradox. It has to be either alive or dead. The problem I have in applying this to a Jesus in the tomb, Egyptian mummy resurrection example is can his example work in reverse? Eg, Schr?dinger's Cat experiment puts a live cat into a box with a flask of poison that may or may not have killed the cat which will only be known when the observer opens the box. Schr?dinger could not have put a dead cat into the box because he would have had to put something in the flask to bring the cat to life for us to ascertain whether it was dead or alive at the time we open the box, so it would always be dead when we open the box (although the theory seems to say the dead cat could be both dead or alive while we can't observe it in the closed box). The Jesus/Egyptian mummy tomb example is similar in that the bodies placed in the tombs are both dead. There is nothing in the sealed tombs that can bring them back to life. Whatever force/power that may or may not have caused the resurrection of Jesus must have been an external source which would contaminate the possible states (quantum decoherence).

There seems to be quite a wide band of definitions for it. com?port (km-p?rt, -prt) v. com?port?ed, com?port?ing, com?ports v.tr. To conduct or behave (oneself) in a particular manner: Comport yourself with dignity. v.intr. To agree, correspond, or harmonize: a foreign policy that comports with the principles of democracy. [Middle English comporten, from Old French comporter, to conduct, from Latin comportre, to bring together : com-, com- + portre, to carry; see per-2 in Indo-European roots.] The American Heritage? Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ?2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

comport As in '... But Judge Jed Rakoff refused to sign off the settlement, which he said ?does not comport with the most elementary notions of justice and morality? ...' Verb Formal 1. comport oneself - to behave in a specified way 2. comport with - to suit or be appropriate to [Latin comportare to collect] Noun A large, covered glass bowl on a stem, which can be used as a serving piece for compotes (see http://www.replacements.com/thismonth/images/deans_corner_comport_x.jpg and updated post on page 4)

Fair enough Hal9000. Thanks for the references. I'll try and keep up with you as you develop your idea and how it might go some way to answering the question whether a God-like entity exists. (edited for typo)

Hal9000, why not start a new thread on this. It sounds as if a fair understanding of science/quantum theory may be needed to follow your idea but I'd be interested to try and to see what others think. On the other hand you could be pulling my leg with the reference to Q Consciousness and it's Star Trek associations.

Yes Peckhamgatecrasher, talk of a soul is starting to veer off topic except perhaps in the sense that if it could be 'proved' that there is another dimension to humans, ie, while we're part of nature and live in the natural and physical world we also have a 'spiritual' element to ourselves (an essence that transcends the physical) then it opens up the possibility of the existence of a supernatural realm, and hence the possibility of a God. (By the way, an amazing idea Hal9000. Although still dependent on the physical world of electrical fields it does allow for our continued existence after our death due to the way we affect space-time physically and mentally)

True Curly and Jeremy. It does all depend on whether one 'believes' there is a separate entity, soul or essence, of a person that is distinct from the physical body. Surely that's incorrect Curly about the bible saying a soul dies at death? I've never studied the bible personally but that would seem to contradict the idea of losing one's soul and the soul going on after death

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The concepts 1+1=2 (dinary system) and E=MC2 can be said to exist as universal truths. Beethoven's Ninth Symphony exists and Tolstoy's War and Peace exists. If mankind is destroyed tomorrow along with all records and evidence of these concepts do these concepts die and no longer exist? There certainly won't be anyone around to remember them. But presumably 1+1=2 exists as a concept/fact/truth even if surviving dolphins or cockroaches know about it or not and could be said to continue to exist, always, and may always have existed from the dawn of time. If matter cannot be destroyed, but continues to exist in it's different constituent parts or different aspects of it recombine atomically to form other matter why should we discount the possibility that some form of 'esssence' may continue to exist as distinct from the actual brain which will of course decay. This isn't a particularly Christian notion and has appeared in many philosophical guises.

Nick

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