TE44

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49795237 Robbie, very interesting interview with President Andry Rajoelina, it eas refreshing to hear him stand up against information given by the Who in regards to the natural remedy. As he says the Who did not ask questions when the frug Mediator (link) was being prescribed for years by French pharmaceutical Servier. I believe the trial was suspended because of covid but I may be wrong. 132million was paid out to patients by this manufacturers. Yet here we have the WHO assuming the right to challenge an natural product which has been used traditionally by the people when they have avoided dealing with atrocities carried out by pharmaceuticals over the years in third world countries. Good for him. I had to laugh when the ionterviewer asked for the other herbs, oh of course the patent. It would be to hard a concept to understand natural medicine may be more than just about money. Here is a link to natural businesses being bought out. https://www.businessinsider.com/natural-brands-owned-by-large-corporations-2014-8?r=US&IR=T#hain-celestial-bought-garden-of-eatin-in-1998-2

snowy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The woman behind Plandemic is now saying that > global elites are part of a satanic cult Snowy, can you post a lik to her sayig this.

Robbie, i wonder what that will cover. Do you know if it will be made public, very interesting. Its a shame we don*t have a system set up here for people to be liable for there direction on a social distancing Neil Ferguson which was put forward to save lives but was not followed by himself. I wonder if he got fined. I can almost guarantee he won*t be waiting in a phone queue to get through to Universal Credit.

https://theprint.in/health/yes-coronavirus-is-mutating-but-most-experts-are-not-too-worried/417471/ "The Los Alamos hypothesis was quickly met with a rush of reactions from raised eyebrows to dismissive skepticism from biologists and soronavirus experts around the worl critics felt the papers language oversold and sensationalized the actual findings". There doesn't appear to be much concern. Like most information there is a divide again making it difficult to make sense of. I absolutely believe if the financial incentive was removed from research, medicine and there was more transparency and integrity it could change this from an industry to a real health care.

Blah Blah I did not suggest any lab would create a mutation for financial gain. is it not so, mutations are created as part of the research,of course viruses don*t need a lab to mutate, what I was saying regarding the partticular altering of the spike glycoprotein is it would be unlikely you would see natural mutations the same as an alteration where a part of the virus is isolated.

https://www.miragenews.com/uk-genome-analysis-has-important-implications-for-covid-19-clinical-trials/ Here is a link to an analysis for covid 19 trials. Its easier to read for me at the moment, in regards to this paper, the researchers are looking at isolated parts of SARS-Cov-2 grown in monkey cells it can change proteins found on surface of virus called spike glycoprotein. It goes on to say That when the virus is grown on a large scale it might alter the spike glycoprotein, and that teams working on vaccines and drug testing will need to take extra care to make sure the virus is not changing when they grow it up in a lab. Would this mutation be a man made mutation considering the virus parts isolated would not naturally work seperately. It worries me the cross over work with animals being done especially when the incentive is wealth.

Thanks Johnl ive not read it yet, as have to be in mood to read this kind of literature, had a glimpse through and couldn't see any relation to Mexico. Read a few of the comments, def easier to take in at the moment for me, noticed a few were saying it doesn't make sense, again. It seems to be a reoccurring feeling for these times.

Seen been,thanks for the exosomone link, I will read it later, havent had time, looks very interesting. Isn't it the DNA that is looked at when the pcr test is done for criminal diagnosis. It is not the same as looking at RNA. I realise the test have been around for a long time, especially when it was at the forefront for HIV,there is some controversay regarding diagnisis with RNA viruses, even now.

Blah Blah, I was replying to Spartucus post which took up my full screen on phone. Saying "cuurently have space in ICU" gives the impression that may have been the case but its not now. It has not been the case as far as I know. The feeling of contradiction and information given, not making sense. I am now calling it a dose of antisense. No questions asked. Is the strain different coming from Mexico, can you explain please. I get what you are saying about E & A isnt that why there is minor injuries in many. Althought theres has been more do.mestic voilence, we do not know the figures yet of the people with serious illness who have died because they put off going to hospiital out of fear. Information given with fear should be clear, that has not been the case, causing an antisense reality. If we had to live our lives with worry about viruses mutating, we would never go out.There have been mmany studies on quarantine, solitary conefinement etc, we are yet to see the figures relating with this lockdown. Suicide figures can take up to a year or more to be added to ONS figures. Although I think Lious Appleby or someone from ,Prevention of Suicide office says they would be working with real time figures in lockdown. Maybe they will wait until after lockdown before realising them.

The people Judy Mikovitshe is naming in the most atrocious crimes, surely would have some case against her if it was not true, she has been compiling all information since gagging order was lifted. I believe she is a brave woman and I would like to see her accusers respond to what she has to say. I felt she included herself when she spoke about people believing they were doing the right thing.

Robbie, I do not believe the PCR test is accurate, i don*t understand how they can a;;ow different levels of amplifications, I have heard this mentioned before and also heard the genetic material can actually be an immune response to being ill. I think the lack of information and unwillingness to share the way these tests work and the implications of the different levels of magnification even within the healing profession frontline workers are expected to have faith in these tests, without having that connection with what tests are being used . I have never heard efexosomes and I was slightly confused with how they caused a problem when they neither cause nor spread infections. the link did not work for me but I found it on youtube. I do believe many thing effect our immune system and I also believe our bodies will react differently. I see there is exosome treatment, I can*t imagine what that would involve, I*ve had a very quick look only. I think the public should be informed about the tests. there should be more transparency.

3min break Judy mitovic vid, be good to hear what people think of this, https://londonreal.tv/is-coronavirus-a-plandemic-exposing-the-truth-behind-americas-covid

DR, I agree, just watched that video and definitely made me question my own beliefs. I was surprised as well asshe is not against vaccines. will put up a link when I can, off to play ppoker.

PP Im sorry if I*ve misunderstood you. Are you aware there is a vaccine damage system set up, Do you believe there should be free speech for people who wish to speak about this. do you believe Judy Mikovits being removed from youtube was the wrong decision. Im slightly puzzled at what you are saying. Do you believe "gullible' people are easily fooled where they cannot decide for themselves what they believe is best for there childre. Sorry I don*t mean to bombard you butI did not mean to misquote you and I can see where Ive made assumptions about what you tyoped.

Robbie I've found we are being given information that creates a divide making it difficult for people to know what is going on. This has been going on a long time in many aspects of our life, it often looks at extremes of situations which encourages that eense of right or wrong. Take for instance the above post I have quoted. PP believes there is no room for discussion,nor any platform for anyone she believes breeds fear along with some other posters they believe anyone listening to that person is gullible. This immediately takes away any understanding of work she has done and also makes an assumption anyone wishing to listen, is easily fooled. This is far from the truth. As I'Ve said I have never came across this woman before and I've had a quick look at some of her work eg ebola.. many things that do not sit right with me, its not a question of being gullible, its more trying to see if there is room for understanding and learning without having to agree with everything. To use fear to educate people especially around there children is a powerful tool to create divide. We've seen in politics the left becoming right, we hear scientist doctors saying should/shouldnt wear a mask, tventilate/dont ventilate, contagious cash while libraries still open and so on. Pharmaceutical markets calling thereself Global Antisense and RNAi therapeutics, makes sense, if you get what I mean.Here is a link its very interesting stuff. There are many problems I see in this industry but I would like to understand a little more, especially nano medicine. https://jordansheel.com/global-antisense-and-rnai-therapeutics-market/ Sorry again, correcting spelling mistakes

Peckhampam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TE44 are you advocating for Judy Mikovits who is > an anti-vaccination activist,and a conspiracy > theorist? > There is a debate to be had about freedom of > speech but the problem with giving such people air > time is that many gullible people believe them. > Parents not vaccinating their children has led to > a great deal of harm. And you only have to look at edited to say oops don*t know how quoted message split like that PP I have never heard of this woman before but i*ve done a little reading and you may believe anyone choosing to listen must automatically fall into being gullible. I would love to be able to ask her questions regarding much of her work. I wouldn*t assume you are unaware of the work she has done or it maybe you are and only see her as an anti vaxxer. I will be watching it with great interest and hope some of my questions regarding what Ive read already will be answered. this is a 2013 article. its a bit scientific but interesting. to believe there should be no air time given to this woman regardless of the work and involvement within this industry is you perogative. you have a choice. https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/chasing-the-shadow-virus-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-and-xmrv > the ridiculous spectacle of people burning 5 g > masts in the belief that they spread covoid 19 to > realise what some people will believe.

robbie, I put up a very interesting video, not sure if it was this thread or one of the others, you may have seen it although not available now. It was an interview with a scientist DrJudy Mikovits. She is being interviewed tommorrow, i think at night, by Brian Rose ofLondon Real, hopefully I8ll be able to link as they are now using ther own platform after being removed from youtube last week. I saw the 30min video and this woman has experience working closely with these organisations, She was arrested and vever charged but had a5yr gagging order put on her.when I went back to check some things she had said it was gone. this is a story I would like to hear again in more detail. DR. I think by Stories Robbie means stories coming from people involved on the front line who have a different perspective.

Sorry DR, You must have posted when I was typing, (I'm slow).flu is pretty contagious as well, I just can't believe if it was contagious as is said, catching it from cash, paper metal, it would have been impossible to stop it spreading. Especially if it was here 3months before lockdown. It is a reality for older vulnerable people the flu jab does not have a good efficiency rate on the whole it doesnt either. We are yet to see the effect the lockdowm has had on velnerable people.

Robbie, Its becoming the norm to not allow people with different points of views around this given reality,to speak out, this is including people working within NHS, when they do it is removed. People who have knowledge within science. It is not about differences of opinions anymore its about Only allowing the given reality.

Getting confused with all the threads. Spatacus which hospitals couldn't give ICU care. I really would be interested to know. I know nurses who were asked if they would be available and as yet have not been asked to work. Although they say tge reason for the Nightingale, eExcel, was lack of staff. In fact many hospitals have had less patient than they have seen for a long time, how long this will continue considering the people who had operations, appointments cancelled then a government spokesman, doctors made a statement, sent texts to ask people to please go for treatment they need. My friend had an MRI appointment canclled, outside her town(north England) then got a phone call asking her to come to ghe main hospital. The nurse said she had never seen the hospital so quiet. I am in no way taking away what hospital staff are doing nor am i saying that all hospitals have less patients. People who would have normally went to hospital, didnt get the treatment they needed will see figures rise.

It is a reality for some older and most physically vulnerable people that they are at risk of becoming ill especially around winter time, this is not a new thing, in fact I can't remember a time when pnuemonia and flu were not a risk. I myself fall into this category. Looking at what we are being told makes no sense. Should everyone be in lock down every year to protect the vulnerable. Shoul the vulnerable be told how they must protect themselves and others when the likelyhood of spreading a virus that mostly effects vulnerable. This is a chance people take anyway. Do we want to protecting people from allowing our immune systems to work. I find it makes no sense.

Ha ha Malumba, do ya want some, so funny, my sons love that clip.

https://youtu.be/1l5354hYmtk An interesting vid done couple of days ago from a whistleblower.

Blah blah, i appreciate your knowledge but I cannot pretend I do not have a problem with many of the organisations in this industry. Since the beginning of this pandemic many things have made no sense. Doctors on the front line have made there own videos asking other doctors and scientists to speak out, doctors being asked to treat patients in a way that does not make sense, to there teaching. There has been a rise in suicide helplines by NHS numbers. Doctors, scientists and anyone who has spoken out about the contradictive information given has been silenced. I welcome change but it is a scary thought whilst in the hands of such corrupt powers.

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/13016-us-surgeon-general-adams-dumps-bill-gates-who-cdc-%E2%80%98predictive-contagion%E2%80%99-model/ Bill gates contagion model is dumped.