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I disagree. Cher will do well in the urban youth hip hop niche.....like N-Dubz and those acts. The boy band will have their time and depending on how they go it will either be a couple of years or ten (the right management and songs will determine that). Longevity, you are right best lies with Rebecca, Matt and Treyc. I think the standard is really high.

I don't know if it's the wine I've been drinking, but I thought it was all dreadful tonight.


Rebecca at a pinch if she avoids the pop market and becomes a proper singer, maybe with a band and stuff, I'd recommend her to run a million miles from Mr Cowell though.


Everyone else was awful, even Mr Grimshaw for whom I had a soft spot as i thought he actually cared about music.


Of course Wagner was, once again, genius!!!

hibbs Wrote:

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> Totally agree with quids

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> > To be fair, that Britney cover was very, very

> good



I have never watced X Fator hibbs - Am I missing anything? I just knew Quids had had a couple of beers. But it does surprise me how many people do watch it.

MP I think you are joshing - 'Wagner was brilliant' lol.


There is vocal talent on the show....and some of those acts are going to do very well even if they don't win the X Factor. Sure mostly they won't achieve international superstar status (that requires something really special) but then how many musicians/ bands with successful careers do anyway. Isn't it enough just to have some level of success? Doesn't mean everyone is crap.


Totally agree about Cowell though. He's not a good manager. He's made Leona Lewis completely boring (made her a lot of money yes...but dull with it). JLS on the other hand have been the monster success they have because Cowell doesn't manage them. They are signed to his companay but a different team take care of them.

Someone actually did a Led Zep song on Saturday - still not heard a Smiths or Cure or maybe even The Fall. Meanwhile, the irish one with a very good Shirley Bassey voice continues to do, er, Shirley Bassey numbers, the girl with the Blues voices does, er, Nina Simone, the fat black guy who everyone keeps saying has a voice 'like Luther Vandross', continues to do, er, Luther Vandross like Soul Ballads, the ones who can't sing get big backing and 'exciting' stage shows to mask their incompetence. The only two who are any good for entirely different reasons are the bloke whoi did the Britney cover, I honestly thought it was great and as Mockers said the genius that is Wagner (DJKQ genius not brillitn I think you missed MP's point). It's doing it for me in its normal mixture between car crash and pantomine way.

*Bob* Wrote:

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> This was Cardle's last chance for me, but he blew

> it with his whiny take on Travis doing Britney.

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> Here's a great Britney cover, well worth

> downloading.



Glad someone else spotted that Travis done it first. The judges certainly didn't! Coonts!

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> I quite like that Cher girl,


No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No!


A conversation I had over this weekend, ending up with me calculating that I would be prepared to do 18 years plus for that little twat!

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