Beware phone stolen tonight on Lordship Lane

[DuncanW]

Fox, it's not a crime to be a victim, I don't think anyone has said that.

[JohnL]

lavender27 Wrote:

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> That is terrible, I suggest phoning the provider

> and getting everything shut down.

>

It can be bricked (either by an app or the providers) - but they

sell on to idiots who don't realise that.

[rendelharris]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> To say that sending 'petty' thieves to prison will

> make them worse criminals and introduce them to

> drugs is ridiculus.

I disagree, but here's another perfectly practical, no-bleedin'-hearts-here point for you: each prisoner costs in excess of ?40,000 per year to keep incarcerated; starting salary for a police officer is ?22,668. So for every prisoner, we could have two more police on the street - something that has been proven the most effective crime deterrent. Criminals aren't scared of prison sentences because nobody commits a crime if they think they're going to get caught: more police officers make the likelihood of getting caught increase, so crime decreases. Offenders should, where feasible, be made to do rigorously enforced community service (i.e. with proper penalties for non-attendance) and at the same time, if appropriate, given training in anything which might discourage recidivism. Again, that's not bleeding heart liberalism, it's hard practicality: 75% of the prison population cannot read, write or do simple arithmetic at end of primary school level. Recidivism rates in the first year after release in the UK are 60%; for those trained and put into work it falls to 10%. This isn't about cosseting the poor little criminals, it's about protecting ourselves by reducing crime and deploying resources in the most effective manner.

[Henry_17]

Section on BBC London this eve about a fast increase in crimes committed with the aid of a moped, having risen 7 fold in London over the past two years.

[suzieb]

any theft of any sort should carry a 5 year sentence, any carrying of a weapon should carry a 10 year sentence ...it you attack someone it sould be a 20 year sentence there should be fixed term sentences for all crimes then just maybe the crims would think twice about doing any crimes ... the prisons should lock them up 23 hours a day not have pool tables and the inmates allowed to walk around as if they are in a club ...

[Mick Mac]

suzieb Wrote:

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> any theft of any sort should carry a 5 year

> sentence, any carrying of a weapon should carry a

> 10 year sentence ...it you attack someone it sould

> be a 20 year sentence there should be fixed term

> sentences for all crimes then just maybe the crims

> would think twice about doing any crimes ... the

> prisons should lock them up 23 hours a day not

> have pool tables and the inmates allowed to walk

> around as if they are in a club ...

Gosh! Full prisons.

And even in countries where they cut the thiefs' hands off, they still have theft.

[Louisa]

I know this is rich coming from me, but I think the EDF trolls have had more than enough feeding the last few days. That bait looks nice Mick Mac but don't waste your efforts.

Louisa.

[rendelharris]

Very much my thoughts Louisa; as Richard Dawkins sagely observed, "Don't get into an argument with an idiot, the best you can hope for is to say you've won an argument with an idiot." The fact that suzieb has dug around to find a thread that had been lying fallow for five months is pretty indicative of her intentions.

[Mick Mac]

But her name sounds so sweet...

[alice]

no that's susieq

[Sue]

She's been registered on the forum for over two years, but hasn't posted much.

She may have ideas you disagree with, but I don't think she is a troll.