Left turn into woodvale

[alice]

Well, say you're coming down the hill past Hornimans, can you legitimately do a u turn just past woodvale then turn left into it.

[Chick]

No

[alice]

because..?

[rendelharris]

Because at the only gap in the central reservation there's a no u-turn sign.

[alice]

that's what I always thought but there isn't.

[rendelharris]

Well unless someone's pinched it...

[Lowlander]

Sign was still there this morning! It's been there for years.

It would be difficult to safely do a U-turn there anyway without holding up traffic.

[alice]

this is weird -sure it wasn't there last night. a minor domestic rests on the answer. thanks

[rendelharris]

Riding that way shortly, I'll keep an eye out!

[ruffers]

The no u-turn sign appeared around 2009-10, until then it was my usual routine.

[rendelharris]

Well, having just ridden past there I can say you might win your domestic, the no U-turn sign in that picture I posted, by the first gap opposite Woodvale, is indeed no longer there. The first no U-turn sign is now down by the pelican crossing.

[Lowlander]

Is there not one further up?

Streetview suggests there is a no right turn sign as well as a no u-turns:

[Bic Basher]

The only way to access Wood Vale is to take the first legal right turn, which is on Overhill Road, then Belvoir, Underhill and Melford.

There are plenty of drivers who will u-turn in the Lordship Lane Estate entrance to go back up LL towards Forest Hill.

[rendelharris]

Lowlander Wrote:

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> Is there not one further up?

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> Streetview suggests there is a no right turn sign

> as well as a no u-turns:

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Oh yeah - didn't see that as I came out of Woodvale and walked my bike across the road. Bit odd to have a no right turn sign as it's impossible to do a right turn without going over the central reservation anyway! But the no U-turn sign by the first gap which is on your picture definitely wasn't there today. It must surely have been pinched or something, they can't seriously have decided U turns there are now permissible.

[bobbsy]

They need that sign - it's defo unsafe for cars to U-turn there. A bit like people who u-turn on champion park to get into grove lane.

[alice]

Thanks all.

[Applespider]

I can't really see why people shouldn't be able to do with the 363s do and turn along Underhill Road to make it easier to get back to Woodvale from the Forest Hill direction. It wasn't quite so bad when Melford was still two way but it's a long detour to get there.

[James Barber]

I've asked council officers whats the plan to replace.

[The Nappy Lady]

Melford Road is better as one way, but they need to allow cars to turn right into Underhill Road - it's a nightmare if you are trying to get back towards Forest Hill Road from Sydenham, traffic is so heavy - if you go down Sydenham Rise the traffic can be backed up right to Sydenham Hill, if you go down Sydenham Hill you are forced to add to the huge weight of traffic going down Lordship Lane, all the way to Overhill Road.

This is one crazy bit of Road Traffic Management.

James, if you are going to get that No U Turn sign put back, maybe you can get the one lower down taken way whilst you are at it, to ease some of the awful congestion, and let people turn right into Underhill Road.

Thanks.

[bobbsy]

I think the right-turn into Underhill Road is potentially very dangerous. I could see it potentially backing traffic further back up the hill, and turning through traffic across the bus-lane is a recipe for accidents. These small side roads are not made for volume of traffic.

[bobbsy]

Molly - have you tried going "around", turning right onto the Sth Circ and left past the Esso to get back towards Forest Hill Rd?

[Bic Basher]

When cars could turn right into Underhill Road, it wasn't the easiest road to cross as a pedestrian. It has also reduced traffic along the section of road up to Melford Road.

[mary123]

I wish cars could turn right into Woodvale like the 363 bus does..make life much easier to get to my roads and avoid going round in circles and over heaps of speed bumps

[James Barber]

I'm been assured this sign will be replaced this Friday morning.

[The Nappy Lady]

Hi Bobbsy

Last few times I have come back down Sydenham Hill I can't turn right to go down to the South Circular as cars

are backed right up to the junction trying to get through the lights at the bottom and on to the South Circular.

It's impossible.

So instead I go down, left onto South Circular, then have to go all the way to Upland Road before I can turn right.

Adding to the weight of traffic.

There needs to be an allowed right turn before that, if need be they should put in a proper turning with lights or something.

It's madness trying to get down and across the South Circular if you want to get over towards Nunhead.

Thanks James (not) for sorting out that No Right Turn sign.

Sigh.