Sainsburys etc no staff to bag up at checkout V poor effort imho

[KidKruger]

Rahrah "It's weird that you stripped my comment of context and then jumped to some imagined scenario of me posing outside the butchers (as though avoiding walking around a supermarket with young kids is some sort of self aggrandising pretension."

You've taken offence at something NOT intended for you.

You've a right to do that of course, but in this instance it's definitely misplaced.

If anything, only the first couple of words were a reply to you and after that I was on my own rant about those on here always complaining about the cheese/butchers/etc. I can digress sometimes !

[KidKruger]

"I feel pretty disconnected from Rye lane, there's little I do/would use there. .... Horses for courses I suppose."

..and that's the way to look at it, there's no wrong/right.

I'm on Rye Lane a lot as it serves 90% of my needs, mainly the small shops too (as opposed to Asda, Iceland). Some people I know never go there yet somehow we all manage to feed ourselves and keep house OK.

[Earl Aelfheah]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Rahrah "It's weird that you stripped my comment of

> context and then jumped to some imagined scenario

> of me posing outside the butchers (as though

> avoiding walking around a supermarket with young

> kids is some sort of self aggrandising

> pretension."

>

> You've taken offence at something NOT intended for

> you.

> You've a right to do that of course, but in this

> instance it's definitely misplaced.

> If anything, only the first couple of words were a

> reply to you and after that I was on my own rant

> about those on here always complaining about the

> cheese/butchers/etc. I can digress sometimes !

Sorry KK - I misunderstood. Tired today and not processing things particularly effectively.

[JohnL]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> "I feel pretty disconnected from Rye lane, there's

> little I do/would use there. .... Horses for

> courses I suppose."

>

> ..and that's the way to look at it, there's no

> wrong/right.

> I'm on Rye Lane a lot as it serves 90% of my

> needs, mainly the small shops too (as opposed to

> Asda, Iceland). Some people I know never go there

> yet somehow we all manage to feed ourselves and

> keep house OK.

I'm way too much a supermarket person :)

Yet I like Rye Lane and as a child remember things such as cockles and lavabread (seaweed) from Swansea market.

[Seabag]

Penge Food Centre

The Butchery

Tesco local

Brockley market

Lina stores

Waitrose Marylebone/Canary Warf

Brick house

Budgens Sydenham

Sainsbury's DKH/CP

Hello Fresh some weeks

Moxons

All pretty well do it for us. Pretty varied mixed bunch I think.

But one thing I do like is quick and knowledgable staff to deal with. Hence I've avoided Asda and the likes, tried them but found them woefully slow.

[Louisa]

The decline in big supermarkets, is a kind of double edged sword. In some places it means that the growth of smaller 'local' branded big name stores enhances the high street and increases footfall. That's got to be a good thing right? The appearance of M&S on LL has probably resulted in a bigger footfall, but that's pure hearsay and based on the increase in shear numbers of people. It certainly helps the independents in a place like East Dulwich, I would argue.

On the other hand, the apppearance of Tesco express or Sainsbury's local in a place like New Addington or Biggin Hill would probably be a detrimental side effect on an already struggling high street for independents. I guess as you say Seabag, shopping habits are horses for horses and dependent upon so many variables.

Louisa.

[Alan Medic]

It that a subtle sheep joke you've inserted there Louisa?

[Louisa]

;-)

Louisa.

[Seabag]

Louisa Wrote:

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> ;-)

>

> Louisa.

Naughty...

But ask anyone in New Addington or Biggin hill and i'd expect they'd not be unwelcoming of the new stores. In many ways the new stores up the game somewhat, with stock levels, rotation, variety and opening hours. There's nothing worse than being stuck in a food dessert, with little choice from sparsely stocked independent stores.

I remember back about 30 years ago, when out of town areas had small Sainsbury's and Dewhurst stores, so some of the trading model is old. M&S being an example, and yes it's certainly busy.

Anecdotally, one of the traders on Northcross road reckons M&S opening has attracted more people to the market. But she herself comes into trade from Notting Hill.

I also know that the demise of Pretty's Fruit & Veg has changed that part of ED, I used to shop there.

But i'm not sure they helped themselves, missing a trick I thought with the changing requirements of shoppers. It was very good at one point and then as they went to do other things, I felt they took their eye off the ball.

Sadly!

[cella]

cella Wrote:

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> Have posted before with examples e.g. Goods marked

> at different prices round the store, trying to

> actually find a responsible staff member to deal

> with issues, picking up customer credit cards and

> inserting them into the machine while you are

> packing, rotting fruit & veg (I pointed it out to

> a disinterested staff member and when I went round

> again later it was stil there) etc etc When I

> reported another bigger issue to head office they

> never bothered replying despite chasing. So, they

> should keep doing what they do well, but, to keep

> their wider market share they must stop being so

> cynical and provide a higher level of customer

> support. BTW not sure what is meant by shoppers

> looking like they need to shop there?

It is such a shame that they are prepared to risk everything they've worked towards by being cynical about proper customer support.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4098880/The-end-rise-Aldi-Lidl-Discount-supermarkets-suffer-poor-Christmas-trading-shops-look-like-ve-robbed-load-schoolkids.html