Can someone set up a petition banning self entitled urban guardianistas from setting up petitions?

[rendelharris]

???? Wrote:

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Signing petitions piece of pointless

> piss.

This petition has forced Parliament to have a debate on the issue, so not entirely pointless.

[????]

That'll go as well as all the others ones have no doubt...

if I was May I'd be polishing up my...

"So the right honorable leader of the opposition is only happy with engagement and platform sharing with unelected terrorists but not with the democratically elected President of an ally and our biggest trading partner" response as we type

[red devil]

???? Wrote:

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> But they involved going along and in some cases

> actually meeting people who disagreed with you and

> were more likely to express that disagreement

> physically. Signing petitions piece of pointless

> piss. Calling someone a @#$%& for reading Bulldog

> at West ham in the 80s took a bit more balls.

That still happens with EDL/UAF clashes. Anyway, protest has taken many forms over the years, Suffragettes, Gandhi, Civil Rights, Poll Tax etx. Online petitions are just another way. After so much apathy I'm glad people are engaging in politics again even if it is at a superficial level. Nothing that is said on here will make any difference in the grand scheme of things, but it doesn't stop us all chipping in. I think your rage is against the vacuousness* of social media in general, and I'm with you on that...

*There you go Lou, you can have that one for free, please use sparingly

[joom]

https://www.facebook.com/owenjones84/posts/1243551969071646

Off you go Louisa

Edited to add an apology, I shouldn't assume you support this cause or worry about these troubling times.

[teddyboy23]

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[Seabag]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Seabag Wrote:

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> > > It's almost as hackneyed and simplistic as

> > hearing

> > > wealthy London dwellers moaning about people

> > from

> > > poor places using their democratic voice to

> > vote

> > > for a political belief they find distasteful.

> > > Let's just ignore democracy shall we and sign

> a

> > > petition? That's going to solve everything.

> > >

> > > The only reason wealthy London 'left wing'

> > > (dubious) types are so offended by the labels

> > is

> > > because they ring true.

> > >

> > > Louisa.

> >

> > It's fun on a not-much-to-to-day, to blather

> off

> > with these tedious stereo types, to exercise

> your

> > prejudices.

> >

> > But it just switches people off, and that's

> > counter productive, no?

> >

> > Please try and engage creatively.

> >

> > Or else post BLATHER BLATHER at the top of the

> > post, so I can switch off accordingly.

>

>

> It's counter productive to exercise my Democratic

> right to question a pointless and lazy exercise in

> social media protest? If you say so. Many of us

> have switched off listening to repeatitive post

> and thread after the other, babbling on about the

> virtues of signing a pretty unimaginative

> petition, achieving nothing, rather than looking

> at the reasons why people voted the way they did,

> and why that contributed towards these odious

> people being put into power in the first place.

> Very much after the horse has bolted mentality

> about the whole thing. And to add insult to

> injury, the denial of recognition about that very

> fact. Yep, I am Using my Democratic right to

> question the point of a social media protest,

> next.. care to add anything constructive?

>

> Louisa.

You know and I know, its the often and hackneyed use of seemingly favourite types of 'insults' you hurl at the groups 'Guardianista/Urban Liberal Elite' that switches people off

I don't know anyone who identifies as those, so how in the world would you expect 'them' to engage?

I often like what you say in parts, often ruined by this type of phrasing, that's all.

But I've come to realise that you're probably closer to 'these' people than you'd care to be or admit. Is it family, Mr Louisa's work? In laws or people you just can't escape that irk you, and not being able to express your feelings, you come on here and project your frustrations at 'them/others like them' ?

Mr Louisa working late? as you often seem alone, and I notice you rarely mention city types or banking, maybe that's the hand that feeds and all that. I get the feeling you're not uncomfortable in life, nice little house, nice little life in the E.D bubble. Much nearer to us really, somewhat further away from the old life than you'd care to admit.

Just a thought.

[Louisa]

Seabag, genuinely fascinated by your last post.

The 'types of insults' I rattle out are varied and dependent on my subject matter. As far as Trump/Brexit is concerned, genuine left of centre groups outside of let's for argument sake say, relatively affluent inner London neighbourhoods, are politically and socially more aligned to anything but what's on offer at Westminster, and consequently find themselves grasping at straws when it comes to election time. Having the 'go-to' party of choice spouting alien rhetoric at best, totally indifferent to your aspirations and needs, has allowed this 'flow away' that's splintered in various directions to the detriment of democracy. We are in effect left with a totally ineffective opposition party in this country, one which the loveys of London can identify with, but a sizeable chunk of everyone else is baffled by. I struggle to have to try and support a grouping which no longer represents me, and hasn't for sometime.

Mr Louisa is no longer working, as I've previously discussed on here, you may have not been a forum regular back then. I can assure you he wasn't a banker, and if he was I want to know why we didn't go on holiday to more exotic locations than Spain or Greece. I do have in-laws I'd rather not spend time around this I said true, but that's not class related, trust me. My irk isn't personal as I've explained to you before, it's almost interpreted in that manner and I don't understand why. I also fail to understand why when others take the personal route, it isn't called up as many people. But there you go.

Louisa.

[red devil]

You were supposed to use vacuousness, not There you go...tsk, amateur!

[Louisa]

I feel like I'm becoming more and more like Kim Woodburn as each day passes.

Louisa.

[red devil]

Does that mean Quids is Aggie?!...

[Louisa]

The way it's going i'll end up with a new sidekick, move over foxy.

Louisa.

[Seabag]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Seabag, genuinely fascinated by your last post.

>

> The 'types of insults' I rattle out are varied and

> dependent on my subject matter. As far as

> Trump/Brexit is concerned, genuine left of centre

> groups outside of let's for argument sake say,

> relatively affluent inner London neighbourhoods,

> are politically and socially more aligned to

> anything but what's on offer at Westminster, and

> consequently find themselves grasping at straws

> when it comes to election time. Having the 'go-to'

> party of choice spouting alien rhetoric at best,

> totally indifferent to your aspirations and needs,

> has allowed this 'flow away' that's splintered in

> various directions to the detriment of democracy.

> We are in effect left with a totally ineffective

> opposition party in this country, one which the

> loveys of London can identify with, but a sizeable

> chunk of everyone else is baffled by. I struggle

> to have to try and support a grouping which no

> longer represents me, and hasn't for sometime.

>

> Mr Louisa is no longer working, as I've previously

> discussed on here, you may have not been a forum

> regular back then. I can assure you he wasn't a

> banker, and if he was I want to know why we didn't

> go on holiday to more exotic locations than Spain

> or Greece. I do have in-laws I'd rather not spend

> time around this I said true, but that's not class

> related, trust me. My irk isn't personal as I've

> explained to you before, it's almost interpreted

> in that manner and I don't understand why. I also

> fail to understand why when others take the

> personal route, it isn't called up as many people.

> But there you go.

>

> Louisa.

When I said 'banking' I meant was he a cashier ?

:))

[malumbu]

ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote:

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> This is rich coming from the most Elitist poster

> on the entire forum!

>

> Anyway, we made the top 10 locations voting

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-38796357

Better move to Bristol then!

[????]

joom Wrote:

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> https://www.facebook.com/owenjones84/posts/1243551

> 969071646

> Off you go Louisa

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>

>

> Edited to add an apology, I shouldn't assume you

> support this cause or worry about these troubling

> times.

I'd quite like a protest about Owen Jones' silence on Venezuela, whilst he's moaning about silences. He hasn't mentioned his previous socialist paradise at all since they began to "run out of other people's money". But he's just another adolescent minded, idiotic middle class revolutionary wannabes like so many of them

[Seabag]

Is that the same Venezuela that has armed prisoners?

Yeah, paradise indeed

[peckham_ryu]

I see a new worthy petition has appeared in the main section http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,1781838

[Otta]

For what it's worth Lou, I am 100% with you on these bloody petitions!

[Earl Aelfheah]

Signing an online petition is sooo much easier than actually doing something though.

[Earl Aelfheah]

deserved rural guardianistas are welcome to start petitions of course.

[JohnL]

Maybe we could rename the UK, Boaty McBoatface. We are an island.

I'm sure that would be the will of the people.

[Earl Aelfheah]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Maybe we could rename the UK, Boaty McBoatface.

> We are an island.

>

> I'm sure that would be the will of the people.

Anyone who thinks this is a bad idea are enemies of democracy.

[FJDGoose]

More tripe from Louisa - stirring it up again - for christ sake give it a rest!

[Louisa]

FJDGoose Wrote:

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> More tripe from Louisa - stirring it up again -

> for christ sake give it a rest!

Not tripe, the truth. But some on here don't like being told as it is. Including you. Interesting to note, you come into the thread late on with nothing constructive to say, just a nice little personal insult to provoke me. It ain't gonna work, I'm over Donald Trump and petitions!

Louisa.

[FJDGoose]

What difference does it make at which point I joined this thread?

[cacaolat]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Because I think it's about time we all signed

> another petition because they achieve so much, and

> put the awful world to rights. Petition, yada

> yada, petition. Tremendous. It's gonna be great.

> Yawn.

>

> Louisa.

It is a basic democratic right of free thinking people, who you would call Guardianistas, to fight the fascist ideology of brexiteers and do something against it.

After all Brexit was brought to us by lies and deception.

Can someone ban Brexiteers from trying to stop the democtratic right of setting up petitions.