waynetta Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I increasingly get the hump with this 'positive' mindset we're all supposed to have at all times. I think it's a bloody american thing. Anyway i have just been reading a book about people who have survived in extreme situations and psychologists have named a phenomenon called the 'Stockdale paradox' named after an American prisoner in the Vietnam war. It seems that the prisoners who more often perished in captivity were the optimists. This was because they were the ones who thought they'd be released by christmas, and christmas would come and go, and thanksgiving, and christmas again etc. In the end they died of a broken heart. The moral of the story?Stick to being a miserable bugger, you've got more chance of escaping from a Vietnamese prisoner of war camp.. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonaloochieB Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Always adopt the Private Frasier philosophy. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computedshorty Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Admiral Stockdale first names James, Bond, but it did not get him in the White House Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynetta Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7c/Bob_todd.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Barbara Ehrenreich is your woman on this topic. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffron Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Let me get this straight. The options are to die of a broken heart, or to live in a prison camp? Hmmm. Tough one. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Or just avoid Vietnam altogether! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMacGabhann Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 You'd be missing out if you avoid vietnam Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynetta Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 Stockdale reasoned that the optimists were in denial. By accepting the brutal reality of the situation he was able to psychologically steel himself to endure the rigours of captivity. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I'd love to go to Vietnam Sean (I'm guessing you've been)....... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
felt-tip Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 I saw a book the other day which was slating the american positivism myth. I read a bit. The author was such a h8er. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Scarlet Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Vietnam?....Me loveeeeeeee you long time?Trust the yanks to come up with doozie like that!'Stockdale paradox' but I agree be a miserable bugger! lol Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/14141-positivity/#findComment-379652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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