Narnia Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Are you sure R.F.Foster was Irish? I just wonder on what grounds he thought we had an unruly nature.I question this on the grounds that we seem to have a good reputation abroad which is somewhat different to that of our English cousins in some instances. I also thought the influence of the church was very apparent long before the nationalist struggles and don't remember ever reading of a link between the two occuring due to the 'struggles'. I believe it's only in recent years the control of the church over the people has diminished. Am prepared to be luminated by anyone more knowledgeable on either subject. ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1529-flats-for-sale-opposite-ed-train-station/page/2/#findComment-42382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Pretty certain he was Irish, will double check when I get home.He's also pretty certain about the connection with the identification between religion and the nationalist struggle, though it was more rooted in the era of the late 19th century up to partition, nowt to do with the modern troubles. There's a whole bit quoting various dignitaries from Rome in the 16/17th centuries saying, 'blimey I wash my hands' etc.And I think he meant it as a complement, rather than anything else. Plus the references for both the points were in the early chapters so 16th century where the whole idea of nationality was only just beginning to take root.The dangers of my quoting out of context eh? Whoops. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1529-flats-for-sale-opposite-ed-train-station/page/2/#findComment-42392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narnia Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Wouldn't worry about quoting out of context. My posts hadn't much to do with 'Flats for Sale'! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1529-flats-for-sale-opposite-ed-train-station/page/2/#findComment-42408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Palaeologus Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 There are people living in some of the flats. You can see them from the train, or over the fence, on step ladders with binoculars.Oops .. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1529-flats-for-sale-opposite-ed-train-station/page/2/#findComment-42455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asset Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 "what happened to good old-fashioned press?"still is used in Scotland.Apparently the Scots use the most grammatically correct english but I can't remember where I read that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1529-flats-for-sale-opposite-ed-train-station/page/2/#findComment-42465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peckhamgatecrasher Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 Probably in the Broons in the Sunday Post! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1529-flats-for-sale-opposite-ed-train-station/page/2/#findComment-42493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee quinnie Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 mockney piers Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> > But to echo downsouth, language does move on. For> instance no one seems too bothered that we no> longer use 'ye' as second person plural (ye irish> types excepted of course) though I think it's a> bit sad we lost it.> What about cupboard, what happened to good> old-fashioned press? etc etc> I am still using press for cupboard - but then I am an irish type. The term "hot press" is probably used in your house - (Irish speak for linen cupboard) - am I right Mockney? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1529-flats-for-sale-opposite-ed-train-station/page/2/#findComment-42543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 spot on wee quinnie!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1529-flats-for-sale-opposite-ed-train-station/page/2/#findComment-42568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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