Cafe Rouge Dulwich Village - Closing next weekend

[sheff]

How long will the property be empty I wonder!

[siomcc]

I just seen that too. Anyone got an idea what will replace it?

[Louisa]

Hopefully C?te Brasserie will be moving in. Or CAU.

Edited to add, I have just checking the planning portal and Cafe Rouge is set to become 'The Real Greek', which was originally moving to ED. Change of plans?

Louisa.

[womanofdulwich]

The staff told me maybe a Greek restaurant

[DulwichFox]

The rent for Jaflong with a small flat above was ?45,000 and was due to rise to ?65,000.

So The Real Greek did not happen, maybe because as I have been told, the asking price is now more like ?88,000

DulwichFox

[JoeLeg]

Does anyone know who the landlord(s) up and down Lordship Lane are? They're plainly going for as much rent as they can get (which is of course their prerogative, not looking for an argument about the usual things), I'd just be interested to know if it's individuals, or one big landowner etc, and hoping someone else already has the answer?

[edhistory]

?65,004 - shop and basement only.

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> The rent for Jaflong with a small flat above was

> ?45,000 and was due to rise to ?65,000.

>

> So The Real Greek did not happen, maybe because

> as I have been told, the asking price is now more

> like ?88,000

>

> DulwichFox

[mikeb]

Joeleg - I think quite a lot of it is owned by Parkhill

http://theparkhillgroup.com/our-story.html

[Mick Mac]

The Real Greek, gets decent reviews across the chain and will I'm sure be a success. Captive customer base anyway.

[first mate]

On their website Parkhill say they are responsible for completetly changing the face of Lordship Lane in ED..

[BigED]

the swines

[edcam]

The Real Greek are pretty good. Not a C?te Brasserie though please, they're awful.

[Mick Mac]

edcam Wrote:

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> The Real Greek are pretty good. Not a C?te

> Brasserie though please, they're awful.

It's a bit late to make suggestions..... :)

[edcam]

I didn't make any suggestions, these places had already been mentioned above.

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> edcam Wrote:

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> > The Real Greek are pretty good. Not a C?te

> > Brasserie though please, they're awful.

>

> It's a bit late to make suggestions..... :)

[Mick Mac]

"Not a Cote Brasserie please" .... That's not a suggestion?

[DulwichFox]

Now that Dulwich Village has it's own Pub again, it now needs it's own Indian Restaurant.

.... or Chicken Shop... or Kebab joint...

DulwichFox.

[Seabag]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Now that Dulwich Village has it's own Pub again,

> it now needs it's own Indian Restaurant.

> .... or Chicken Shop... or Kebab joint...

>

> DulwichFox.

No it doesn't.

[DulwichFox]

Seabag Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

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> > Now that Dulwich Village has it's own Pub

> again,

> > it now needs it's own Indian Restaurant.

> > .... or Chicken Shop... or Kebab joint...

> >

> > DulwichFox.

>

>

> No it doesn't.

Come on Seabag.. You know me. I was Jesting. :)

People on here always take everything I post so literally..

Views of The Fox are the Fox's views. Not necessarily my own. ;-)

That's why I always sign out with DulwichFox, Foxy, Fox or DF .

Me

[Jules-and-Boo]

That's crafty, Foxy.

[KrackersMaracas]

A rare insight into the man behind the mask!!!

[Mick Mac]

The contrast between the spending capacity in DV, and the culinary product available on which to spend that money, must be quite frustrating for some I'd have thought.

[malumbu]

All poxy chain restaurants. Why don't you just add a MacDs, Subway and Pret? What happened to individuality? Only being provocative of course!

[tomskip]

I find it frustrating that shopping and eating out in the UK is so dominated by chains. I guess it must be to do with high High Street rents but going in to central London and finding two Pret a Manger and two Starbucks (just for example) within a couple of minute's walk of each other makes me feel a bit meh. It feels so different in France/Spain/Greece/Germany/Italy and I don't understand why it has to be different here.

[NewWave]

tomskip Wrote:

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> I find it frustrating that shopping and eating out

> in the UK is so dominated by chains. I guess it

> must be to do with high High Street rents but

> going in to central London and finding two Pret a

> Manger and two Starbucks (just for example) within

> a couple of minute's walk of each other makes me

> feel a bit meh. It feels so different in

> France/Spain/Greece/Germany/Italy and I don't

> understand why it has to be different here.

I think you already mentioned the reason-high street rents.

thats why places like shorditch Dalston and Peckham start out with great independent buisnesses and once those areas become 'hip' or popular landlords get greedy and sadly the chains then are the only ones who can afford to be there.

its a bee in my bonnet not just with eateries but with stores selling other goods too.

I wish London was more like paris for example with beautiful small individual independent shops to 'discover'

[tomskip]

Yes, I think I'm saying why do our town centre commercial rents have to be so high that independents cannot survive in them? It seems to work ok in other European countries. Can't comment on the US or other places as haven't visited enough. The UK is notorious for it's dull High Streets. I've lived in Brixton, Dalston and ED pre-gentrification. Wondering where to go next!