Brexit View

[diable rouge]

Shouty angry people will of course be easiest heard, but that doesn't necessarily mean they hold the majority view...

The problem with Brexit is that it was only ever a concept. In it's simplest form one could say that it was primarily about leaving the EU. But we know there are many ways to do that. So you will always get ''It's not what I voted for!'' comments...usually in CAPS :)

[JoeLeg]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> Shouty angry people will of course be easiest

> heard, but that doesn't necessarily mean they hold

> the majority view...

> https://twitter.com/chrishanretty/status/101661529

> 9448299521

True in pure theory, but I?m sure you?d agree social media is capable of creating a kind of ?mob mentality?, whereby people who read it. - but don?t necessarily participate - end up with tremendous amounts of confirmation bias and cease to think for themselves.

> The problem with Brexit is that it was only ever a

> concept. In it's simplest form one could say that

> it was primarily about leaving the EU. But we know

> there are many ways to do that. So you will always

> get ''It's not what I voted for!''

> comments...usually in CAPS :)

Well, yes. Exactly. And exactly what a lot of people are yelling. Some are no doubt Putin-Bots, but there?s still a lot of them who can?t quite understand why their own personal, specific view of what Brexit should be isn?t being enacted.

This is going to run and run, and probably still nothing will really change.

[Alan Medic]

Now it doesn't matter to some in authority what damage is done, as long as the democratic 'will of the people' is followed

This tweet makes me sick. A load of bollix is a load of bollix.

[Alan Medic]

From what I understand what May is looking for is more cakism. I think it's either a no deal Brexit or no Brexit. Given how little has happened in two years, the former wouldn't surprise me. Stock up on tinned food!

[JohnL]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> From what I understand what May is looking for is

> more cakism. I think it's either a no deal Brexit

> or no Brexit. Given how little has happened in two

> years, the former wouldn't surprise me. Stock up

> on tinned food!

The Government is apparently (if you believe some reports)

[diable rouge]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> If this is true and there are the numbers, then

> she will have to face a vote of no confidence...

> https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1015930389934886

> 913

> She would win it as there simply aren't enough

> Brextremists to defeat her, but the much bigger

> problem she could face is if they then start

> voting against her in the HoC. Labour have already

> said that the Chequers deal doesn't pass their

> tests. The big irony in all this is that the

> Brextremists are now relying on the EU to reject

> the deal...

This has already started...

Re. Patel's Tweet, that's all they can claim now, Brexit has been totally debunked...

[JoeLeg]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Now it doesn't matter to some in authority what

> damage is done, as long as the democratic 'will of

> the people' is followed

>

> 716333057

>

> This tweet makes me sick. A load of bollix is a

> load of bollix.

Pritti Patel is a vile individual. She?s a really nasty piece of work.

[poch]

Gary Neville called UK politics 'a total shambles' on ITV's coverage of footie last night...

[JohnL]

JoeLeg Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > Now it doesn't matter to some in authority what

> > damage is done, as long as the democratic 'will

> of

> > the people' is followed

> >

>

>

> > 716333057

> >

> > This tweet makes me sick. A load of bollix is a

> > load of bollix.

>

>

> Pritti Patel is a vile individual. She?s a really

> nasty piece of work.

I followed her plane home to be sacked. Thoroughly deserved.

[JohnL]

Maybe he shouldn't but ...

[Alan Medic]

JohnL Wrote:

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> > Pritti Patel is a vile individual. She?s a

> really

> > nasty piece of work.

>

> I followed her plane home to be sacked.

> Thoroughly deserved.

Didn't she resign? I don't think May does sackings.

[JohnL]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> JohnL Wrote:

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> > >

> > > Pritti Patel is a vile individual. She?s a

> > really

> > > nasty piece of work.

> >

> > I followed her plane home to be sacked.

> > Thoroughly deserved.

>

> Didn't she resign? I don't think May does

> sackings.

You're right technically as she was ordered back to London and "forced to resign" :)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/priti-patel-sacked-quits-theresa-may-fired-cabinet-israel-meetings-international-development-a8044166.html

[Alan Medic]

This is big and where it might lead.........

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/mueller-rosenstein-russia-indictments/index.html

[JohnL]

May has capitulated again (to the Brexiters this time)

4 amendments accepted. She's like a pinball.

[diable rouge]

Tory Remainers now rebelling against the Mogglodyte rebels. The Gov could lose an amendment it capitulated on, but then be back where it started. Only in the Brexit madhouse...:)

[JohnL]

Now Theresa May wants to send the house of commons home early.

She's had enough - but this is going nowhere fast. OK when do I buy a load of tinned soups just in case :)

[robbin]

JL, aren't you too busy posting hourly updates on this thread to find time to don your tin foil hat and stock up with tinned goods? ;)

[diable rouge]

I like John's updates, the EDF is the one-stop go to place for news, sport, weather, entertainment, even consumer advice on 'sophisticated' phone scams...:)

[JohnL]

robbin Wrote:

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> JL, aren't you too busy posting hourly updates on

> this thread to find time to don your foil hat and

> stock up with tinned goods? ;)

I might have to interrupt my attempt to keep this thread on page one in order to buy my Brexit preppy supplies.

[robbin]

Ha! Go for it! I reckon you've got time to get down the survivalist store for some long-life food pouches. I doubt you will miss anything of interest and if you've got iplayer on your phone there is always another running anti-Brexit commentary available on the BBC if you get caught short.

[Alan Medic]

On what planet is the BBC anti Brexit?

[robbin]

This one, it seems. To be fair to the BBC though, so is Sky News most of the time.

I'm not suggesting you will, but before anyone decides to launch into a generalised attack on me as ignorant and/or racist (on the assumption I voted to Leave) - I didn't vote to leave and I'm not (at least not racist) - but I do recognise the reality that in certain circles in London (in particular) a large majority were firmly in favour of remaining in the EU and have not got over the referendum result yet. With some reporters/commentators their views are thinly disguised, if at all.

[JoeLeg]

robbin Wrote:

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> JL, aren't you too busy posting hourly updates on

> this thread to find time to don your tin foil hat

> and stock up with tinned goods? ;)

If you think this thread has regular updates, you should see what the one on Arrse looks like...averaging over a thousand posts a week!

https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/brexit-phase-two-trade.268800/

[robbin]

Whoa - that's enough to make your eyes bleed!

[diable rouge]

The BBC will say it's doing their job because a lot of Brexiters are saying it's pro-Remain, and vice versa with Remainers. The problem I have with the BBC in recent years is that it's created a rod for it's own back with it's post-referendum ideological need to provide so-called balance. That's fine up to a point, but not to the detriment that it stops the BBC doing it's journalistic duty of checking whether what's been said is factually correct. This from a journalism lecturer explains it better...

If someone says it's raining and another person says it's dry, it's not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out of the fooking window and find out which is true. :)