any advice on eviction please

[Brendan]

In the second world war zee Germans welded armor plating to VW beetles to use as armor cars. Their rugged chassis and air-cooled engines (wouldn?t freeze up in the winter) made them very handy.

They also disguised them as tanks to trick the allies.

Professor Ferdinand Porsche designed the VW beetle.

[Domitianus]

I was in Target Arms the other day (have you seen the nice new paint job on the frontage), checking out the selection of gas-masks for my fetish club when the chap behind the counter gestured me over (stop it!!!) and said that he had a Russian T34 tank in the garage. It had cast a track apparently but if I was willing to take it as seen he would throw in a restored flintlock and Roundhead helmet for nowt. Anyone got a Haynes manual for a T34?

[mockney piers]

One of my neighbours when I lived in East Finchley had a self-propelled howitzer outside, which always made for a slightly surreal walk to the high st. Couldn't tell you what it was though. I think it was wheeled if that helps.

And OMG, you can find anything on t'internet - T 34 users manual

[Thequietone]

Before you commit to buy get it checked over by

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandela_Way_T-34_Tank

It would be most embarrassing in the supermarket car park for it to throw a track and for you to mash a load of pensioners cars in the disabled spaces.

Paul

[Asset]

Dom, you are indeed an intriguing character. German Porn stars and now fetish clubs. How were the masks out of interest? Any good?

[spadetownboy]

hi folks just back from a lovely weekend in dusseldorf very nice.on the subject of tanks there used to be some bloke who drove around the streets of brixton in a tank,come to think of it not a bad idea actually.

[Asset]

doesn't Chris Eubank drive a tank or armoured car around Brighton too?

[snorky]

Domitianus Wrote:

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> Can I just say that I am amazed at the flak (no

> matter how politely couched) that Kai has been

> getting here - poor tenant, how difficult it is

> for the tenant etc. All that may be true but I do

> know that eviction notices are not issued lightly

> and the tenant has usually given a landlord every

> reason to evict them if an eviction order is

> issued. So, whilst I think it wise for Kai to

> comply with the law, I don't think he has any

> obligation at all to incur any additional costs on

> behalf of a tenant who must have well over-stepped

> the mark to get evicted in the first place and who

> doesn't seem to have taken steps him/herself to

> sort the situation.

>

> I imagine that Kai has already had to invest quite

> a bit of time, energy and possibly money into this

> process and to expect him to further act as a de

> facto banker and storage facility to this tenant

> is a bit much. After all, who will pay the

> storage costs if this stuff is put in storage?

> Kai? The tenant who doesn't seem to want to deal

> with it? I'd be interested to know.

I could be cynical ans say its part of the risk of getting intrinsically involved in people lives when you become a landlord for profit.

no one is forced to be a landlord.

people are forced to be tenants

[ClareC]

This is ridiculous, I cant believe the negativity unfairly directed towards Kai for being a landlord.

The law is actually very pro tenant, if Kai has lawfully evicted a tenant it would have taken a few months minimum and considerable expense to Kai. Needing to take such steps is a risk of renting a property out, however there is an automatic assumption that landlords are wealthy individuals, profiteering from those less fortunate and choose to be in that position.

Not all landlords make a profit, with current house prices rents are lower than mortgages despite the relatively low interest rates. Whether Kai is in profit or not is irrelevant, it is Kai's right as a landlord to gain lawful repossesion of his property, for him to do so, the tenant would have been given more than reasonable notice and the clearly for Kai to have had to go down the road he ended up the tenant chose to ignore the notice and stay put.

It is incorrect to assue landlords choose to be landlords, people's circumstances change and often it can be a more sensible option renting a property out than selling.

Even if Kai is choosing to be a landlord and making a huge profit then these are not reasons for him to get this grief! He has not done anything wrong from what has been said.

[snorky]

ClareC

Who has said he has done anything wrong ?

In comparison to the rest of our EU chums, UK law is still in the dark ages with regard to tenants rights.

I make no judgement on Kais post, apart from he has nmade a decision to become a landlord - irrespective of him making a loss or a profit wach month - Kai was not forced at gunpoint to become a landlord - he then has to take the good with the bad.Whatever the reason,. he made that decision.

Bad tenant/ bad choice of share portfolio / bad choice of Emerging market corporate bonds in your pension pot

Personal choices that are not motivated by any sense of responsibility to wider or even local community - Unlucky - live with it.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Clare

I haven't seen too much negativity towards Kai either - landlord's provide a service after all and I did mention that if the tenant is troublesome than my sympathies are with Kai

You make some good points but ultimately there is no sense that someone is being turfed out of their home - which is what's happening regardless of how nicely done, how correct the motivations and how legally binding. The main reason UK law is as snorky puts it "in the dark ages" is that by and large tenants have little choice but to tolerate short-term tenancies

The sense that a tenant is a second-class citizen pervades

I have a good friend (an echo of the Porsche thread coming up but with a twist) who is about to buy his first property. He is being totally honest about his mercenary reasons for doing this (make money, don't worry about the tenant's rights, oblivious to landlord's responsibilities) but rather than defend him I tell him straight to his face why I think he is wrong. But he genuinely does not believe he is doing anything wrong. So If I have put the pro-tenant case forward in this thread then I have reasons.

But as I said in my first reply I know many landlords with equally horrific stories to tell about tenants from hell so I am not one-sided on this. I think current legeslation is a botched job which doesn't address the needs of either side very well