Why did the chicken cross the road-innit?

[Abe_froeman]

Also handy for a pint of milk or similar on a sunday evening after co-op has closed.

I'm not sure this application will get through. They seem to need to meet the following criteria for a change of use: "The premises has been vacant for a period of at least 12 months with demonstrated sufficient effort to let, or have not made a profit over a 2 year period."

Quite clearly it hasn't been vacant and it would seem it must be profitable if it's still open. They say it might not be profitable because it has to compete with M& S !!

[JohnL]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> for meat to be classed as Halal, each animal will

> ? in accordance with Islamic law ? have the name

> of God pronounced over it before dispatch.

> Invoking Allah before killing an animal is simply

> "acknowledging a spirituality behind all material

> existence".

>

> under EU law, all animals must be stunned before

> slaughter. Halal process doesn't include this and

> means they are cut and in full awareness. There is

> much controversy about the halal slaughter being

> inhumane.

>

> While it's something that can be understood on

> religious grounds on a smaller scale, this doesn't

> stretch to mass production and factory farming

> required for the quantities of animals for Pizza

> Express, Nandos etc who are jumping on the

> marketing bandwagon.

Call me barbaric, but taste matters to me - and again and again I hear Halal is not as good to taste as non halal - even from Muslims (how would they even know). Maybe it's because blood is drained or is Halal free range/organic or mainly mass produced.

Ahh- you do get halal organic etc. ( https://organic-halal-meat.com ) - obvious really.

[Jules-and-Boo]

Organic certification is about how the animal lives - not how it is killed, so yes - halal organic does exist.

It's not really a surprise that how an animal is reared will affect how it tastes. Organic meat will taste better as well as being more ethical.

Organic meat is also not full of antibiotics and other nasty stuff, that you are literally putting into your own body as they are transferable.

Unfortunately ethics and profit don't mix in the mass market that places like Nandos reaches out to, so they'll go for the cheap option.

[Louisa]

Seabag, I've just checked the page linked to the application details you provided and nowhere on that link does it suggest Nando's will be taking over the retail unit on that site. It also doesn't mention any other business which will be moving in either. So not sure where you got your information from?

Louisa.

[Elphinstone's Army]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Its a toss up for me, between which is the more

> depressing

>

> Londis or Worcester?

>

> Actually what is Londis handy for, apart from

> shoplifting ?

If you think Worcester is depressing you should try Gloucester on a weekday.

I do my shoplifting online now.

[Seabag]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Seabag, I've just checked the page linked to the

> application details you provided and nowhere on

> that link does it suggest Nando's will be taking

> over the retail unit on that site. It also doesn't

> mention any other business which will be moving in

> either. So not sure where you got your information

> from?

>

> Louisa.

Industry inside info Lou.

Anyway, back to Nando's.

Lemon and Herb or Extra spicy?

[Robert Poste's Child]

I used to buy organic about 15-20 years ago but to be honest I'm not sure it does always taste better (that and I no longer have the microbiologist partner who couldn't stop himself from saying witheringly, 'It's not INorganic, is it' whenever I asked about the upbringing of a lettuce, which made it more amusing). Prefer local over organic generally.

[Louisa]

Seabag Wrote:

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> Louisa Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Seabag, I've just checked the page linked to

> the

> > application details you provided and nowhere on

> > that link does it suggest Nando's will be

> taking

> > over the retail unit on that site. It also

> doesn't

> > mention any other business which will be moving

> in

> > either. So not sure where you got your

> information

> > from?

> >

> > Louisa.

>

> Industry inside info Lou.

>

> Anyway, back to Nando's.

>

> Lemon and Herb or Extra spicy?

Well if this information is true, I for one am incredibly disappointed. I rely on this shop for various items I struggle to get elsewhere in the neighbourhood and will be raising this issue with Mr Barber as it is yet another restaurant and loss of useful retail in East Dulwich. Not happy.

Louisa.

[Robert Poste's Child]

What does Londis stock that no one else does? Intrigued.

[Sue]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> What does Londis stock that no one else does?

> Intrigued.

Jelly beans.

Halloween flashing earrings.

Err, that's it.

[Louisa]

Londis is a useful convenience store for people, and considering the number of restaurants and pointless trinket shops we have around here, it makes good sense to keep a mixed use high street which is franchised and independently run, as opposed to a chain restaurant of which we have one less than a mile away in camberwell. A lot of older people prefer going Ina small local shop where they recognise a friendly face. Anyway it makes no difference, let's just become a pointless high street full of restaurants. Who cares about the community aspect. Meh.

Louisa.

[Seabag]

London is a graveyard of a store.

It's the last refuge of the desperate ( Xmas pudding in July) and a stoners paridise.

It's got nothing 'special' and it's had its day

Whereas the multicultural inclusive Nando's is going to attract a whole New diverse crowd to it. It will adds splash of much needed colour to the area.

That red cockerel will look great on the Lane.

I can't see what's wrong with a superchain owned by a reclusive South African billionaire . And with 300 odd outlets they certainly know their business. Plus they'll be there for years, even when the Brexit recession kicks in.

[BrandNewGuy]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Londis is a useful convenience store for people,

> and considering the number of restaurants and

> pointless trinket shops we have around here, it

> makes good sense to keep a mixed use high street

> which is franchised and independently run, as

> opposed to a chain restaurant of which we have one

> less than a mile away in camberwell. A lot of

> older people prefer going Ina small local shop

> where they recognise a friendly face. Anyway it

> makes no difference, let's just become a pointless

> high street full of restaurants. Who cares about

> the community aspect. Meh.

>

> Louisa.

Pay Less / Costcutter is only a short walk away for all those emergency needs.... such as beer at 3am...

[Seabag]

I think Louisa's getting a bit snooty about the new chicke place

I thought she'd love it, being all for the people and that.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Twenty years ago the value of shops like Londis and Shepherds in DV was that they were open for post-drinking snacking and hangover food on a Sunday, but now that everywhere's open late, you can see why people don't want to pay those prices. They need new reasons for people to go through the door. The Costcutter opposite the library tried hosting the Post Office for a while but looks that that didn't work out.

[JohnL]

Seabag Wrote:

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> I think Louisa's getting a bit snooty about the

> new chicke place

>

> I thought she'd love it, being all for the people

> and that.

We've been talking about this since 2008 and to be fair her position has been consistent :)

[Louisa]

Indeed JohnL I am consistent on this issue, and tbf our local councillor is also supportive of a mixed use high street. We cannot continue to lose valuable resources which are replaced by pointless chain restaurants. Think Nando's may need to get their market research in order. A Nando's on Lordship Lane would be much less fruitful to their long term success than one in Peckham, which has a younger mobile population and night life culture. LL is not the ideal place for one of their restaurants when you look at the amount of competition and also slow/limited footfall. I shall be opposing any move which limits the decline in local independent convenience stores to be replaced by chains.

Louisa.

[Seabag]

And London isn't a chain?

[halal meat]

Halal is an Arabic word meaning lawful or permitted. The opposite of halal is haram, which means unlawful or prohibited. Halal and haram are universal terms that apply to all facets of life. However, we will use these terms only in relation to food products, meat products, cosmetics, personal care products, food ingredients, and food contact materials.

While many things are clearly halal or clearly haram, there are some things which are not clear. These items are considered questionable or suspect and more information is needed to categorize them as halal or haram. Such items are often referred to as mashbooh, which means doubtful or questionable.

All foods are considered halal except the following, which are haram:

Swine/pork and its by-products

Animals improperly slaughtered or dead before slaughtering

Animals killed in the name of anyone other than ALLAH (God)

Alcohol and intoxicants

Carnivorous animals, birds of prey and land animals without external ears

Blood and blood by-products

Foods contaminated with any of the above products

Foods containing ingredients such as gelatin, enzymes, emulsifiers, etc. are questionable (mashbooh) because the origin of these ingredients is not known.

order your halal meat @ ( [noshahi.com] )

[halal meat]

Halal is an Arabic word meaning lawful or permitted. The opposite of halal is haram, which means unlawful or prohibited. Halal and haram are universal terms that apply to all facets of life. However, we will use these terms only in relation to food products, meat products, cosmetics, personal care products, food ingredients, and food contact materials.

While many things are clearly halal or clearly haram, there are some things which are not clear. These items are considered questionable or suspect and more information is needed to categorize them as halal or haram. Such items are often referred to as mashbooh, which means doubtful or questionable.

All foods are considered halal except the following, which are haram:

Swine/pork and its by-products

Animals improperly slaughtered or dead before slaughtering

Animals killed in the name of anyone other than ALLAH (God)

Alcohol and intoxicants

Carnivorous animals, birds of prey and land animals without external ears

Blood and blood by-products

Foods contaminated with any of the above products

Foods containing ingredients such as gelatin, enzymes, emulsifiers, etc. are questionable (mashbooh) because the origin of these ingredients is not known.

order your halal meat @ ( [noshahi.com] ) https://noshahi.com

[halal meat]

Louisa Wrote:

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> Seabag Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Louisa Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > Seabag, I've just checked the page linked to

> > the

> > > application details you provided and nowhere

> on

> > > that link does it suggest Nando's will be

> > taking

> > > over the retail unit on that site. It also

> > doesn't

> > > mention any other business which will be

> moving

> > in

> > > either. So not sure where you got your

> > information

> > > from?

> > >

> > > Louisa.

> >

> > Industry inside info Lou.

> >

> > Anyway, back to Nando's.

> >

> > Lemon and Herb or Extra spicy?

>

>

> Well if this information is true, I for one am

> incredibly disappointed. I rely on this shop for

> various items I struggle to get elsewhere in the

> neighbourhood and will be raising this issue with

> Mr Barber as it is yet another restaurant and loss

> of useful retail in East Dulwich. Not happy.

>

> Louisa.

Halal is an Arabic word meaning lawful or permitted. The opposite of halal is haram, which means unlawful or prohibited. Halal and haram are universal terms that apply to all facets of life. However, we will use these terms only in relation to food products, meat products, cosmetics, personal care products, food ingredients, and food contact materials.

While many things are clearly halal or clearly haram, there are some things which are not clear. These items are considered questionable or suspect and more information is needed to categorize them as halal or haram. Such items are often referred to as mashbooh, which means doubtful or questionable.

All foods are considered halal except the following, which are haram:

Swine/pork and its by-products

Animals improperly slaughtered or dead before slaughtering

Animals killed in the name of anyone other than ALLAH (God)

Alcohol and intoxicants

Carnivorous animals, birds of prey and land animals without external ears

Blood and blood by-products

Foods contaminated with any of the above products

Foods containing ingredients such as gelatin, enzymes, emulsifiers, etc. are questionable (mashbooh) because the origin of these ingredients is not known.

https://noshahi.com

[halal meat]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> What does Londis stock that no one else does?

> Intrigued.

because halal is the be https://noshahi.com

[halal meat]

chicken must have been asleep lol halal meat online