DJKillaQueen Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Peception by pedestrians also has a lot to do with it. The noisier a vehicle is the more respectful of it pedestrians tend to be. They see a bicycle and assume a) it's not going at a speed that can harm anything b) if it does collide with anything it won't harm it. So they walk out in front of it. They don't do that if they see/ hear a motorbike, because they have a different perception of motorbikes....that they are fast and dangerous. I cycle, drive and have motorcycled too and have seen this difference in the way predestrians interact with vehicles on the road. No pedestrian ever stepped out in front of the motorbike ever. The car, they sometimes do and the cycle, they often do. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashoi Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Just for the sake of clarity, I don't jump red lights on a bike partly because that's illegal and I'm not advocating breaking the law by me or anyone else and partly because I don't own a bike. Should the law ever change it should be as a result of proper study, not my opinion. Unfortunately my word is not law...yet. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 DJ, I believe it is as much that people rely a lot on their hearing, and for whatever reason do not alway use both senses, rather than think I can't hear it therefore it wont hurt me. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 ^excellent point Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryb Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I've resorted to whistling whilst I cycle - it actually works very well. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annette Curtain Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I ring/ping my bell and boom "MIND YOUR BACKS PLEASE"( i do have an incredibly loud/ train driver type voice BTW )I revel in making them jump.( I mean, pedestrians are the dumbest road/pavement users of all )All the more effective when i'm dressed head to toe in my black/fluro cycle warrior gear.Nette:)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Crane Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 DJKillaQueen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Peception by pedestrians also has a lot to do> with it. The noisier a vehicle is the more> respectful of it pedestrians tend to be. They see> a bicycle and assume a) it's not going at a speed> that can harm anything b) if it does collide with> anything it won't harm it. So they walk out in> front of it. > > They don't do that if they see/ hear a motorbike,> because they have a different perception of> motorbikes....that they are fast and dangerous. I> cycle, drive and have motorcycled too and have> seen this difference in the way predestrians> interact with vehicles on the road. No pedestrian> ever stepped out in front of the motorbike ever.> The car, they sometimes do and the cycle, they> often do.Perception? Sorry are you saying that its a pedestrians' fault for having the nerve to walk on the pavement while cyclists are using it at the same time. I'm totally stunned that so many people are putting forward lame excuses for these jack asses. I for one can understand why people can get very angry with these idiots, the fact that these buffoons put bells, whistles, wear flourescent clothing in the hope that this will make them immune to a good slap from an irate pedestrian are saddly mistaken. Get on the road where you belong. That's it, no more needs to be said. Jeeeez Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Emerson Crane Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------Perception? Sorry are you saying that its a> pedestrians' fault for having the nerve to walk on> the pavement________________________________________________________No, this is not what is being said here. You need to read the post more carefully. The point being made here is how much attention pedestrians pay to other traffic WHEN CROSSING A ROAD___________________________________________________ Get on the road where you belong.> That's it, no more needs to be said. Jeeeez___________________________________________________^ +1 You'll find no arguments from me on this point Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binary_star Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 The power of the bike bell: Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 In Germany they have warning signs for cyclists in pedestrianised areas that say 'Schritt-tempo' which I understand means that either on or off your bike you must be at walking pace, which seems a good solution.Proper bike lanes that are clearly marked and separately from motorised traffic would also help; surely we're the only major European city not to have them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 "Proper bike lanes that are clearly marked and separately rom motorised traffic would also help; surely we're the only major European city not to have them."______________________________________________________?? they're not everywhere, but we do have them and they are increasing:http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4073/4863372766_6ffc7739a0.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Not anywhere around here yet unfortunately. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 True. But to say "surely we're the only major European city not to have them." is just wrong. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Well the ideal solution is seperate lanes for cycles...but I've lost count of the number of times I see pedestrians walking in the ones that do exist! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 ^OOOF! That's true lol Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Time for a new thread, heheheheWhat recourse is there against pedestrians who disregard the highway code? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 oooh mischievious....but I'm in the mood ;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I vote we register pedestrians.http://img.slaveregister.com/pictures/jpgs/146E2.600.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJKillaQueen Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 HA HA....Well here's one for you. The only time I ever hit a pedestrain was one that walked across a pedestrian crossing in stationary traffic. I had right of way (as the light was green on me) but hit him and then scratched and dented the car I fell into. In the end the car had to use it's own insurance for a repair...but surely the stupid pedestrian was liable?They should all be insured I tell ya!*opens can of worms as mid-afternoon snack muhahahahaha* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 *nips off to put popcorn in microwave* Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/16509-what-recourse-is-there-against-cyclist-who-disregard-the-highway-code/page/5/#findComment-425508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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