Decent news sources / places to read the news?

[Mark]

Does anyone have any recommendations for good sources of news, or more exactly, places to read news that's to my or your liking? I'm finding..

BBC - become too lazy, sensational and intolerable

Guardian has a few good stories, probably the most readable individual source

Telegraph - interesting and the physical one comes free with a bottle of water

Times and FT - a few good stories but you have to pay for all the rest

Facebook or Twitter - Don't touch that

Daily Mash / Daily Mail - Fun comics to dip into every now and then

Motor Cycle News - Great but a bit too specialised

The Google News (aggregator) seems to be my go-to now as it has a fairly good spread, it's simple and you can block sources (see comics above) https://news.google.com

The Independent - today it has "Breaking News - Brown backs Corbyn as Labour leader" - that's not breaking news, that's someone's opinion on someone. A bomb going off in London is Breaking News.

OK, you're never going to get something perfect where you read every story and enjoy it, I just don't want adverts between every paragraph, pictures of Kate Middleton or sensationalising every little fart in a parliamentary chamber. I'm happy to pay a small charge if necessary. Have you any suggestions?

[JohnL]

Guardian, Indy, Standard and Wales Online LOL

Twitter just has to be used correctly (90% is rubbish but you get an idea how opinion is moving)

[red devil]

You could try business-centric sites like the FT and Reuters for less opinionated news stories.

The Economist is also worth a look. And of course there's Private Eye for an irreverential take on the news...

[rendelharris]

If you can read French Liberation is worth a look online - the French equivalent of The Guardian but rather less po-faced. Always interesting to get a European perspective on the news as well.

[TheCat]

you left the EDF off your list.....

[red devil]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Always interesting to get a left wing

> European perspective on the news as well. :)

[JohnL]

Oh .. and for some reason I like some of the Irish newspapers - gives you a different perspective on Brexit.

[JohnL]

red devil Wrote:

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> > Always interesting to get a left wing

> > European perspective on the news as well. :)

You mean The Canary and Owen Jones's blog :)

[rendelharris]

red devil Wrote:

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> rendelharris Wrote:

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> > Always interesting to get a left wing

> > European perspective on the news as well. :)

I thought describing it as "the French equivalent of The Guardian" made that fairly obvious!

[Earl Aelfheah]

The FT and Guardian online (although the latter is pretty poor really, at least there's no paywall).

[Tractorlad]

I find Flipboard on the iphone is a great aggregator of news throwing-up articles from a variety of local and international sources.

[robbin]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Guardian, Indy, Standard and Wales Online LOL

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> Twitter just has to be used correctly (90% is

> rubbish but you get an idea how opinion is moving)

You mean on how the opinion of the users of Twitter is moving, not any broader 'opinion'.

[robbin]

If you can read Bulgarian Dnevnik is worth a look online - the Bulgarian equivalent of The FT but rather less pink.

Or were you looking for suggestions on English language news sources?

[Loz]

The Beeb is still the best, even if its standards have dropped lately. You just have to pick your stories carefully.

The Guardian lost the plot a while ago when it blurred the wall it had between its previously excellent news coverage and the abject lunacy of its opinion writers. And it is another that creates whole articles based on people's tweets like they are news.

The Indy is quite good, but it's website design is just so plain revolting it is unreadable, even with an adblocker on full attack mode. You'd think that going internet only they'd have fixed this, but no. And the Indy100 bit is just plain awful - it reads like they get a bunch of unpaid interns to write it and it reads like Twitter on steroids.

The Times' paywall makes it irrelevant. The Telegraph is going the same way. Interesting, though, how the Guardian seems to have convinced many thousands of gullible suckers to part with five quid a month.

The worst paper by far (yes, even considering the Sun and the Mail) is the Express. Shameless buzz-feed style headlines hyping up nothing stories.

[SpringTime]

Loz Wrote:

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> The Beeb is still the best, even if its standards

> have dropped lately. You just have to pick your

> stories carefully.

>

> The Guardian lost the plot a while ago when it

> blurred the wall it had between its previously

> excellent news coverage and the abject lunacy of

> its opinion writers. And it is another that

> creates whole articles based on people's tweets

> like they are news.

>

> The Indy is quite good, but it's website design is

> just so plain revolting it is unreadable, even

> with an adblocker on full attack mode. You'd think

> that going internet only they'd have fixed this,

> but no. And the Indy100 bit is just plain awful -

> it reads like they get a bunch of unpaid interns

> to write it and it reads like Twitter on

> steroids.

>

> The Times' paywall makes it irrelevant. The

> Telegraph is going the same way. Interesting,

> though, how the Guardian seems to have convinced

> many thousands of gullible suckers to part with

> five quid a month.

>

> The worst paper by far (yes, even considering the

> Sun and the Mail) is the Express. Shameless

> buzz-feed style headlines hyping up nothing

> stories.

Yes I still like some of the BBC too, though you have to be selective. Most of their mainstream news items are thoroughly washed. The BBC news site is one I check twice a day at least.

I do find that the supposedly unbiased BBC totally disregards real European interests (not the EU though - which it loves) and that goes for Radio 4 especially. I can't see anything interesting in any other TV news broadcasting.

The Guardian's international coverage is often good, especially the broader articles, but the lunacy is indeed there - here's a rightwing review of recent self-celebration from the online edition:

http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-low-hanging-guardian.html

I still like The Economist, The Spectator and The New Statesman though I normally only read the print editions of these if I have gone on a long journey.

I also like Russia Today in its various formats, and sometimes listen to LBC in the car at various times of the day and in the evening.

[womanofdulwich]

I like The Week. Esp as it tells you how others report the main news.

[uncleglen]

If you want the unadulterated truth read Private Eye once a fortnight.