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can't we just call this thread 'overrated x episode 453'.


At least it's not bands with umpteen people telling us how awful the Beatles were.


Aaaanyway, with you on OTR, I'd add most of Burroughs' output in there too, terribly dated and very dull.


I did try a GGM novel a while back but got bored very quickly, a latin american Henry James if you ask me. I am rather partial to Mario Varga Llosa though. La Ciudad y Los Perros (I think it's The Time of the Hero in English) is well worth a read, right up your street snunks, all having a pop at the establishment and revealing societal hypocrisy and stuff.


Reading Karl Marlantes Matterhorn at the moment; was initially reluctant as Vietnam's a bit done isn't it, but any book that took 35 years to write has to be worth some attention if just to appreciate the sheer bloody mindedness of it all.

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Is there a Boden-approved reading list for the summer?


From past catalogues I'm going Beevor's Stalingrad. Amsterdam and Atonement, from Ian McE. Nothing from Richard & Judy's sales promos, obv.


This summer's "most-packed on top of the iPad charger before hitting the A303" will be The Crimson W@nk Fantasy and the White, but not with the BBC cover pic, clearly.

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Anyway, Otta has a point. Very few of us have the mental capacity to be true polymaths, even if we had the time, so there isn't much justification for the bookish to look down on those who get their intellectual kicks elsewhere. The rule does seem to be the usual nonsense about the obscurer the better. Oh, and liking reading poetry makes you either super-cool and intellectual, or a pretentious twonk.
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Any of these from this purported Top 50 books of the last century? I'm embarrassed to admit that I've read precious few on the list...


1. Ulysses by James Joyce


2. The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald


3. A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce


4. Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov


5. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley


6. The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner


7. Catch-22 by Joseph Heller


8. Darkness at Noon by Arthur Koestler


9. Sons and Lovers by D.H. Lawrence


10. The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck


11. Under the Volcano by Malcolm Lowry


12. The Way of All Flesh by Samuel Butler


13. 1984 by George Orwell


14. I, Claudius by Robert Graves


15. To the Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf


16. An American Tragedy by Theodore Dreiser


17. The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers


18. Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut


19. Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison


20. Native Son by Richard Wright


21. Henderson the Rain King by Saul Bellow


22. Appointment in Samarra by John O'Hara


23. U.S.A.(trilogy) by John Dos Passos


24. Winesburg, Ohio by Sherwood Anderson


25. A Passage to India by E.M. Forster


26. The Wings of the Dove by Henry James


27. The Ambassadors by Henry James


28. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald


29. The Studs Lonigan Trilogy by James T. Farrell


30. The Good Soldier by Ford Maddox Ford


31. Animal Farm by George Orwell


32. The Golden Bowl by Henry James


33. Sister Carrie by Theodore Dreiser


34. A Handful of Dust by Evelyn Waugh


35. As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner


36. All the King's Men by Robert Penn Warren


37. The Bridge of San Luis Rey by Thornton Wilder


38. Howards End by E.M. Forster


39. Go Tell It on the Mountain by James Baldwin


40. The Heart of the Matter by Graham Greene


41. Lord of the Flies by William Golding


42. Deliverance by James Dickey


43. A Dance to the Music of Time

[vol 1] [vol 2] [vol 3] [vol 4] by Anthony Powell


44. Point Counter Point by Aldous Huxley


45. The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway


46. The Secret Agent by Joseph Conrad


47. Nostromo by Joseph Conrad


48. The Rainbow by D.H. Lawrence


49. Women in Love by D.H. Lawrence


50. Tropic of Cancer by Henry Miller

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