Safety for some,

[Tarot]

How comes its against the law not to belt up in a car,yet hundreds of people every day are travelling standing up in

cramped trains and buses ?.

Double standards where money,s involved.

[????]

Them astronauts actually get helmets the cheeky buggers

[Frankito]

Why double standards? You need tonshuffle them cards a bit more..

[DJKillaQueen]

How many buses and trains have accidents compared to cars? There's your answer (oh and that coaches are required to have seatbelts because they travel on motorways).

[Dee Woffaz]

Who's going to be the clever b@%&*rd who decides you need to use a seat belt on a motorbike.......... anyone know if you have to use one in a side car?

[Loz]

How it illegal to use a mobile phone while driving, but not illegal to have a burning stick of tobacco in your hand??

[Huguenot]

I think it's just one step at a time Loz - although I don't really think the two things are on a par in terms of diverting your attention.

I've seen people in cars completely blind to the outside world because they're remonstrating with someone on the phone. I've never seen a cigarette have the same effect.

Frankly, despite being a smoker, I have no idea how people can smoke in cars at all!!

[Annette Curtain]

Loz Wrote:

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> How it illegal to use a mobile phone while

> driving, but not illegal to have a burning stick

> of tobacco in your hand??

OBVIOUSLY the in use smoking hand is already taken up. So it makes sense NOT to occupy the spare hand with a communication device.

The law makers are pretty clever sometimes.

NETTE(td)

[Loz]

Huguenot Wrote:

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> I've seen people in cars completely blind to the

> outside world because they're remonstrating with

> someone on the phone. I've never seen a cigarette

> have the same effect.

Drop both in your lap and see which one diverts your attention more!

[HonaloochieB]

Tarot Wrote:

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> How comes its against the law not to belt up in a

> car,yet hundreds of people every day are

> travelling standing up in

> cramped trains and buses ?.

> Double standards where money,s involved.

I'd get this one off to Viz pronto if I was you T.

Just have the final line read 'It's one law for the likes of them Stagecoach gadgies and another for the rest of us'.

I reckon you'll get a pencil for that.

[mockney piers]

It's the fixation with, superfluous comma,s that frightens me more, than anything,

[Tarot]

No,one, considers the safety, of people, standing, on, a ,packed ,bus,.

Why? because ,fare money, is all they are ,interested in,.same with trains,.

Feel free to correct my text, you amazing academics,....

[StraferJack]

correcting your text is merely incidental to the humungous flaws in your logic Tarot

Are you really suggesting that people on buses and trains should be required to wear safety belts? You genuinely think passengers want that but the greedy companies won't invest?

[Frankito]

Gosh please stop humoring him.. Straight to the Naughty Room

*presses the big red button in the corner of the room marked: Eject Tarot*

[Tarot]

We all have flaws Strafer.I gather you have not been thrown while standing on a crowded bus driven by a physcho driver,

or stood next to a unwashed oink on a train all squashed together.

Of course its logical to wear a safety belt in a car,and you could be fined without one,but the concern for safety does

not apply to commuters.

Frankito bad boy ,Ill see you in the playground by the naughty room.

[Tarot]

They could get those double decker trains,that they have in some countries to ease the crowding, but we are not worthy

so we wont get them.

has anyone been on a double deck train.

[camberwell70]

Tarot Wrote:

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> How comes its against the law not to belt up in a

> car,yet hundreds of people every day are

> travelling standing up in

> cramped trains and buses ?.

> Double standards where money,s involved.

Its not 'hundreds of people' its millions and therefore would be impractical and impossible to police.

[StraferJack]

Tarot. I've been in all of those situations. Sorry. Still don't see your logic

Double decker trains are great but how typical of you to adopt the martyr "we are not worthy" position and ignore the fact that this country has a different topology. Have you never noticed just how many low bridges there are on the rail networks?

[DulwichFox]

Having a Cigarette whilst driving is dangerous.

You first need to locate your ciggies..

Then a method to light it.

Matches.... Lighter.... ??

Car lighter ... press .. wait to warm up... retract from holder... light cigarette... replace in holder..

Requires manoverours similar to tuning radio.. as you have to take your eyes off the road...

A work mate of mine a few years back drove into the back of another car whilst selecting a sweet

from the passengers seat. Just a second of distraction...

Fox

[Huguenot]

Ban sweets?

[Frankito]

Tarots, I was waiting and you didn't show.... All talk. >:D

[Jeremy]

I think StraferJack is right, the number of low bridges and tunnels would rule out double decker trains. Actually I have been on a couple of double decker trains in Europe - there were no seatbelts, and some passengers still had to stand.

As others have said, there are relatively few train accidents compared with car crashes, it is an inherently safer way to travel. And buses usually travel at low speed (but coaches have to have seatbelts fitted).

[mockney piers]

Are we really indulging this?

How come we are forced to sit through tedious safety demonstrations on flights, but I notice birds taking off all the time without so much as a health and safety certificate...I mean it's one rule for them and another for us....it's about oil I tell ya!!

[HonaloochieB]

Just to go OT slightly, this morning on the 12 bus this gadgey and a lollygagger were talking.

The gadgey told the lollygagger that the bendy 12s were on their out by Xmas and the 436s would folllow in quick smart order.

His source was an unnamed 'friend' at Camberwell garage, who could well be the worst sort of yegg for all I know.

Can anyone verify whether this is the case or should I just stop listening to nogoodniks on the buses?

[Tarot]

I bet your kids dont get sweets off of you Mockney, low tolerance level.

Strafer I must admit I never thought of bridges being short I dont travel by train a lot,but think of the work created if they could start building bigger ones.

I hate commuting on trains, never works out well, and I,m mainly a miserable martyr with a touch of the Jack Dees.

Frankito I havent got outside yet Hughnots banned the sweets, and Mockneys put me in a padded room:X