Trouble in peckham?

[DinkyToy]

The situation that does scare me is the hollow-point in the police vest, and the question of how it got there.

If it is proved Duggen did not fire a weapon then all hell WILL break loose.

[Santerme]

Why, if he even threatened the officers and it turned out to be a replica, the police were fully justified in opening fire.

[Otta]

I'm on Sydenham high street, and suddenly all the shutters are down and everyone is closing. Heard people saying that the big Sainabury's in lower Sydenham has been "done" but don't know if there is any truth in that.

[DinkyToy]

You know that and I know that.

However, the "community" will see it as an execution, plain and simple.

[Undisputedtruth]

mockney piers Wrote:

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> Short term

>

> >> 2) Zero tolerance of low level crime (by all)

>

> I like the sound of that, its one of those things

> that always plays well to the gallery, the

> corollary of course being what do you do with

> them. Our prisons are already full, we can't

> afford lots more of them, and the culture

> responsible for the looting actually deems time

> inside as a badge of honour, so that ship has

> sailed.

>

In addition, it costs ?50k to lock up a prisoner for a year.

[mockney piers]

There are a billion things contributing to our currents states of affairs, X Factor has definitely played its part however small.

There are some truths in those french opinions like the dehumanising effect of globalisation, how that is in any way shape or form peculiarly anglo-saxon is just bollox though.

[Jeremy]

DinkyToy Wrote:

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> If it is proved Duggen did not fire a weapon then

> all hell WILL break loose.

I doubt it. Most of the people rioting and stealing probably couldn't care less about Duggan.

[Brendan]

Can we blame the French?

[Cassius]

Heard that Surrey Quays might be targeted. Police have suggested that Lordship Lane shops prepare to close early.

[DinkyToy]

And again, most people in round 2 won't give care about Duggan. Bear in mind, though, that round 1 was meant to have been started by the family not getting answers quickly enough about the original incident, and look where we ended up.

The family might well condone the violence, however there are alot more vested interests desperate for the Police to be seen to execute an "innocent man" and will kick it off again.

[*Bob*]

If you left London in the last few years after failing in your wannabe career, it would seem that now is an excellent time to post on Facebook about how you 'made the right decision'.

[thecrazy48]

My brother has just text me to say a group is already gathering on Camberwell Green. Here we again...

[thecrazy48]

My brother has just text me to say a group is already gathering on Camberwell Green. Here we go again...

[Magpie]

Zero tolerance is not just about jail and arrests - its about society self policing anti-social behaviour as much as anything, as I said in my post - when was the last time you told someone off for littering, bad language on a tube, feet on a seat etc

[Brendan]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> If you left London in the last few years after

> failing in your wannabe career, it would seem that

> now is an excellent time to post on Facebook about

> how you 'made the right decision'.

Or if you moved to the Home Counties because of the lack of affordable housing...

[andy1]

I'm opposite Camberwell Green and that is utter bollocks. Half the problem is people scare-mongering. If any of the little scrotes read this forum (granted, unlikely) they may now decide to head for this supposed gathering at Camberwell Green, and suddenly you've got a problem that YOU have created. Irresponsible rumours, not to mention the fact that my wife is believing what she reads on here and thinks I'd be safer in Kosovo.

[wjfox]

From Twitter:

"Gangs on way down lordship lane from forest hill ! Saindburys dog kennel hill closing NOW !"

http://twitter.com/#!/ThePalmerston

[Sally81]

KEEP things factual. Twitter is unreliable as is any hearsay. For the sake of our community can we please only post about what we have seen with our own eyes....don't spread unnecessary fear.

[*Bob*]

Brendan Wrote:

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> Or if you moved to the Home Counties because of

> the lack of affordable housing...

This isn't a time for honesty, Brendan. This is a time to re-brand your reason for leaving.

[Huguenot]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> If you left London in the last few years after

> failing in your wannabe career, it would seem that

> now is an excellent time to post on Facebook about

> how you 'made the right decision'.

Fortunately most of the expats I know have a sense of pride in the UK and a great deal of concern for their friends and colleagues caught up in this disaster. It would probably take a particular kind of person to capitalise on this tragedy to make petty attacks on others.

[sarahstrawberries]

Sally81 Wrote:

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> KEEP things factual. Twitter is unreliable as is

> any hearsay. For the sake of our community can we

> please only post about what we have seen with our

> own eyes....don't spread unnecessary fear.

I phoned Sainsburys 5 minutes ago and they confirmed that all customers had been evacuated and the store was closed; just the staff to leave. This was due to specific advise received which is that there is a mob moving from Camberwell through to Peckham.

[andy1]

sarahstrawberries Wrote:

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> Sally81 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > KEEP things factual. Twitter is unreliable as

> is

> > any hearsay. For the sake of our community can

> we

> > please only post about what we have seen with

> our

> > own eyes....don't spread unnecessary fear.

>

>

> I phone Sainsburys 5 minutes ago and they

> confirmed that all customers had been evacuated

> and the store was closed; just the staff to

> leave. This was due to specific advise received

> which is that there is a mob moving from

> Camberwell through to Peckham.

So, in order to keep things factual, you've posted some facts that you received from a shop worker who'd heard from his colleague who had heard some rumours from someone who heard from an indeterminate and unspecified individual who had specific intelligence that a gang was heading from SE5 to SE15. If I was in a mob heading from SE5 to SE15, I'd take the flat route along Camberwell Church St myself, rather than trekking up Grove Lane and Dog Kennel Hill then down the other side thus threatening Sainsburys on the way. (As you can tell, I think you're being ridiculous in posting this nonsense and panicking people for no good reason).

[BB100]

We need to remember that it is school holidays and a group of youths walking down the road would ordinarliy not cause any concern but now is making everyone nervous.

[Otta]

Right, I've had enough.

Put photos in for 1 hour printing, and paid. An your later, snappy snaps is on lock down.

Where will it end, dear god where will it all end!

[christina&charlie]

PLEASE can you post concrete facts - photos from Twitter, actual accounts of movement - there must be some of you there that are at home nr LL that are aware of what is happening. I need to make a decision as to whether to come home soon or go stay in Orpington - i'm on my scooter and don't really fancy being punched off it tonight - that nearly happened last night on the junction of Peckham Hill st and Rye lane just before they burnt down the bus - i dodged a couple of the little n0bheads.

On another note - why burn down McDonalds, Fried Chicken Hut and JD Sports?

Also, why loot Poundland??? Are you serious??