What's happening at the Harvester?

[Sue]

There are portakabins in the car park, and the concrete blocks blocking the entrances have been replaced by gates.

Does anyone know what's going on?

Sorry, I know there's another thread somewhere, but I can't find it.

[hammerman]

Yes, drove past the other day and there is suddenly bright yellow gates with padlocks on so who knows?

[Sue]

hammerman Wrote:

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> Yes, drove past the other day and there is

> suddenly bright yellow gates with padlocks on so

> who knows?

Well, hoping someone knows is why I started the thread :))

[James Barber]

My understanding is temporary use to hold coaches for the Dulwich Private School Coach Service near to the schools rather than them parking where they should not at the schools.

[malumbu]

A homeless person had managed to make a den, hope he hasn't been evicted.

[Sue]

James Barber Wrote:

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> My understanding is temporary use to hold coaches

> for the Dulwich Private School Coach Service near

> to the schools rather than them parking where they

> should not at the schools.

Thanks James, but why would they need portakabins?

There are also two portaloos, which I can understand if coach drivers are there for a long time, but portakabins??

[Michael Palaeologus]

Accommodation for the Drivers between the morning and afternoon runs? If the coaches are staying their throughout the day, the Drivers need somewhere to stay.

[Sue]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> Accommodation for the Drivers between the morning

> and afternoon runs? If the coaches are staying

> their throughout the day, the Drivers need

> somewhere to stay.

Crikey, Radiant Bhuna, that doesn't sound very comfortable! There are no windows, for a start!

[Louisa]

On the planning portal I found a application which seems to be completely at odds with the above.

Louisa.

[Michael Palaeologus]

> Crikey, Radiant Bhuna, that doesn't sound very

> comfortable! There are no windows, for a start!

They need daylight to function?

[Sue]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> > Crikey, Radiant Bhuna, that doesn't sound very

> > comfortable! There are no windows, for a start!

>

>

> They need daylight to function?

Well I wouldn't fancy sitting around in artificial light all day!

I'm wondering now whether I actually meant Portakabins. Maybe they are just large containers. Who knows what for. Will have a closer look next time I'm up in that direction!

[hammerman]

Sue Wrote:

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> hammerman Wrote:

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> > Yes, drove past the other day and there is

> > suddenly bright yellow gates with padlocks on

> so

> > who knows?

>

>

> Well, hoping someone knows is why I started the

> thread :))

Sorry, just stating 'the bright yellow gates with padlocks on so who knows' and like you I'm wondering what's going on with the old Harvester pub. Spent many a happy time with family and friends there and was sad it suddenly closed.

[intexasatthe moment]

Louisa I can't face the vagaries of the planning portal . What was the gist ?

[ruffers]

I don't know if there were portakabins there previously, but as of last night what I saw was a couple of containers which would be used for storing equipment.

[JohnL]

Over a year ago in the Southwark plan it said ...

"The vacant Grove Tavern to become a new care home, if a new pub, restaurant, or business doesn?t move in"

https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/65-sites-earmarked-development-new-southwark-plan/

[Sue]

ruffers Wrote:

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> I don't know if there were portakabins there

> previously, but as of last night what I saw was a

> couple of containers which would be used for

> storing equipment.

Yes, that was probably what I meant. Sorry for any confusion!

I assume coach drivers wouldn't need to store equipment, so could the containers be for builders?

Has any planning application (or whatever) actually been approved yet?

There was a public meeting about the future use of this land/building - last year I think? There is a thread about it on here somewhere. If memory serves, there was a possibility of some kind of community arts centre? (Chance would be a fine thing, I guess).

[Siduhe]

This should be a direct link to all planning applications for the Grove Tavern. I can't see anything recent - Louisa, what are we missing?

https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/propertyDetails.do?activeTab=relatedCases&keyVal=_STHWR_PROPLPI_107631_2

[BrandNewGuy]

There hasn't been any planning application for building there, according to Southwark's planning site ? just a tarting up of the phone mast there.

[Pugwash]

From what I can gather, the company that originally ran the Harvester are still paying rent for the premises. That Dulwich Estates want to build flats on the site as they wish to get the income from developer. Dulwich Estates are not interested in low money making schemes!

[alice]

I wonder if there are grounds for compulsory purchase by the council as they have left that site to become dilapidated and dangerous in an area that needs more social housing.

[loveED86]

I agree more social housing is needed but also affordable homes to buy being priced according to local wages rather than market rates.

Community land trust is the way forward http://www.londonclt.org/ :)

[DulwichFox]

To ease Traffic congestion on Lordship Lane and surrounding streets

perhaps a part of the carpark could be used for a Park-and-Ride Scheme.

DulwichFox

[Louisa]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> To ease Traffic congestion on Lordship Lane and

> surrounding streets

> perhaps a part of the carpark could be used for a

> Park-and-Ride Scheme.

>

> DulwichFox

Brilliant idea foxy. Would certainly ease the congestion on residential streets. Ship the commuters off to ED or FH for Overground.

Louisa.

[DulwichFox]

Louisa Wrote:

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> DulwichFox Wrote:

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> > To ease Traffic congestion on Lordship Lane and

> > surrounding streets

> > perhaps a part of the carpark could be used for

> a

> > Park-and-Ride Scheme.

> >

> > DulwichFox

>

> Brilliant idea foxy. Would certainly ease the

> congestion on residential streets. Ship the

> commuters off to ED or FH for Overground.

>

> Louisa.

It's something I have brought up on EDF before..

Foxy