Otta Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Parkdrive / Ladygooner, are you aware that Arsenal match is now at 3pm on the 27th.It's on BBC Website. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Well. A great result for Manchester....and not for Mick's bet Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 ..goalkeeper sent off for kicking spectatorEveryone seen this? My sympathy is with the keeper, the bloke was trying to drop kick him from behind, it's hardly a Cantona tyep assault Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Having seen it for the first time, absolutely agree with Mr Quids. If you are attacked, which he was, then you are enitled to take a little revenge. Live by the sword and die by the sword. As for my bet. Spurs on the drift from 22 to 32....long way to go though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
candj Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Yes, but the goalkeeper did have a few extra heartfelt kicks at the spectator. Don't ask why I'm even commenting on this thread... I just happened to see it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 No probs CandjBut - If I kicked someone for absolutley no reason I'd expect more than a few kicks back, and I would deserve it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Self defence - even for the subsequent kicks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laddy Muck Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I, too, agree with Master Quids and cannot help but sympathise with the goalkeeper. There but for the grace of God...But then - presumably - there is the issue of reasonable/unreasonable force (he was wearing studs) etc...Still, the red card has since been rescinded. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 The Dutch FA handled the situation well.I too questioned whether the keeper had used reasonable force. Then I concluded he should have kicked the fan harder.:)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
candj Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Oh, I'm not disagreeing and also feel it was deserved, after all, he could have been some psycho with a knife or whatever and I would have the same response if someone was walking towards me like that ... just think the ref thought it was excessive force. Also liked that the team walked off the pitch in response. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 What rule of football allowed the ref give him a red card? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Otta, this might be of some interest, I haven't read it to be honest but the opening salvo seems to represent much of what I've read on these pageshttp://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2011/12/hypocrisy-the-english-disease/#.TvO2XdGZEAV.facebook Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Thanks for that Atticus, it's a very well written piece. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Just read it myself. Excellent article. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCSB79 Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Alan Medic Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> What rule of football allowed the ref give him a> red card?Violent conduct. I don't believe it has to be directed towards a player or official... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Van Der Vaart out with a hamstring problem. Explains why he was anonymous before being taken off last night. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Bugger! Injuries starting to pile up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Jah Lush Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Bugger! Injuries starting to pile up.Worry not Jah, Arry's favourite time of year starts in 8 days! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Parkdrive / Ladygooner, are you aware that Arsenal> match is now at 3pm on the 27th.> > It's on BBC Website.Yes thank god for that!!! I was starting to panick about how the heck I would find a parking space. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laddy Muck Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Had to look this one up out of pure curiosity. Presumably the referee was relying on one (or more) of these rules, Mr. Medic.A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off and shown the redcard if he commits any of the following seven offences:1. is guilty of serious foul play2. is guilty of violent conduct......6. uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures.I am really surprised at how broad and unspecific these rules are. What, for example constitutes "serious foul play"? I didn't find a "definitions' section". Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> ..goalkeeper sent off for kicking spectator> > Everyone seen this? My sympathy is with the> keeper, the bloke was trying to drop kick him from> behind, it's hardly a Cantona tyep assaultSo what was the keeper supposed to do? Wait to get assaulted before he defends himslef. Thankfully it appears common sense has prevailed and the red card has been rescinded. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Laddy Muck Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------.> > I am really surprised at how broad and unspecific> these rules are. What, for example constitutes> "serious foul play"? I didn't find a> "definitions' section".Look no further than Roy Keane's "foul" on Alf Hinge Haaland. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Jah Lush Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Laddy Muck Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----.> > > > I am really surprised at how broad and> unspecific> > these rules are. What, for example constitutes> > "serious foul play"? I didn't find a> > "definitions' section".> > Look no further than Roy Keane's "foul" on Alf> Hinge Haaland.> Roy ends Alf's career.This episode was disgraceful quite how he escaped legal proceedings is beyond me. And before anybody says anything, It's not just because he was a united player, its just unforgiveable. Full stop. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 That really is sickening. A great player, but a real nasty piece of work, with far to big an ego. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laddy Muck Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I remember that, Jah. It was truly shocking at the time and is no less so watching it again now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/18997-football-focus/page/385/#findComment-509900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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