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There was undoubtedly a police cover up, but that doesn't make the police guilty of deliberately trying to kill Liverpool fans. It makes them cowards and fools. No news there.


The obvious answer to most of the questions Annasfield has posed is 'general incompetence' - that fact that many Liverpool fans will not accept this answer means that they want a different one.


I suspect that they will not rest until the 'different' one is a declaration that Liverpool fans were deliberately targeted and murdered.


This question is typical of that "Anne Williams wants to know why Liverpool were given the smaller end of the ground when our support was almost double what Forest's was that day."


The subtext to the question is the suggestion that there was an advanced plan, a conspiracy months in creation, to put Liverpool fans in the smaller end in order to kill them.


Anne Williams' quest to change the verdict on Kevin from accidental death to unlawful killing is an example of this.

No it was poor planning and gross negligence. No one thinks it was deliberate, but people put their trust in those that were meant to be there for their safety that day. Liverpool FC wrote to the FA to express their concerns about the Leppings Lane end and the over crowding that had occurred at previous matches, prior to the game on the 15 April 1989. Had the authorities put their hands up and admitted they'd got it wrong instead of starting a smear campaign then we wouldn't even be having this conversation.


If I fuck up in my job I lose it and questions are asked as to why that fuck up happened. I don't get early retirement and a huge police pension.

This is Anne Williams' own words:


"Kevin did not die from traumatic asphyxia or in an accident. I will not pick up his death certificate until we get the cause of death put right and the accidental death verdict struck down."


Make no mistake - this is not a perition for an inquest to find out the answers to Annasfield's questions, this is another attempt to try and 'prove' that the police set out to murder her son and other Liverpool supporters and then covered it up.

I think we can still get behind the Justice for the 96 Campaign


Absolutely! The fact that 40,000 + people signed that petition in the last 24 hours to get it over the required 100,000 in time shows both the power of social media and the steadfast support of so many, so many years on.


#JF96

Got my tickets for Sundays clash between the Arsenal and the rags. I have no idea of how this game will go and won't have a stab at predicting the outcome, especially as my midweek prediction of Wolves to beat Brum didn't come off but my prediction for Barca to beat Real and Brighton to overcome Wrexham did. Shame they were in an accumulator!!!(6)
I loved those Jah - I thought YouTube had got leant on to stop em? The West Ham one had "Would anyone who wasn't alive when West Ham last won a trophy leave the room"...on the bit where nearly everyone leaves the room!! Might have to search for some others if there back!

Yeah, they were rubbish yesterday. Shocking performance from Liverpool. Chelsea weren't much cop either so take a bow Andy Carroll and Fernando Torres, at a combined cost of ?82 million, 2,000 minutes of football between them and not a single goal. Money well spent? Certainly not.

Really looking forward to today's two Premiership games. Hopefully a draw between Woolwich Wanderers and Man Utd and a win for Tottenham at The Etihad. COYS!

Torresd is a quality player on a bad run of form. I think he'll get it right, but not sure Chelsea is the team for him.


Carroll is looking increasingly like an ?8m (maybe) striker with the added pressure of a silly money transfer fee hanging over his head.


Not sure what to say about Liverpool really, They were shocking yesterday. They've not been playing too badly recently though, except in front of goal. Can't see them spending much, if anything, this window though.

Torres hasn't been the same player for two or three years now. It's a very long bad run of form. I think he'll come good eventually but Chelsea need to rebuild around him so it could still take a while before he hits his stride. As for Carroll, he may have scored 19 goals last season but that was in the Championship. I don't think his style suits Liverpool and they paid way over the top for him. I can't see them getting a couple of wingers and banging in crosses for the big, rough, greasy haired, pony-tailed ponce up front. Can you?

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